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Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:21:39AM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

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> > Why would you want this ? From an electrical or logical point of view,
> > it makes no sense.
> 
> Well, two reasons:
> 
>    * in most cases (other than hot plug) you want to make connections first, 
> before you turn on the power  (I mean, for example, you don't assemble your 
> computer with the power on)
> 
>    * and somewhat similarly (but in a very different context) in a 3 pin power 
> plug for an ordinary household outlet (in the US), the ground pin is longer 
> than the power pins so that the ground is connected before power is applied. 

Good point, so the hotplug case seems counterintuitive. But consider that
in the first case, components are designed to handle the case of power
coming and going. If you connect them with power running, you can run
into exactly that situation that one data pin is connected before the
circuit is powered up: the best thing happening is that the input's
overvoltage protection (imagine a diode going up from the input to
the positive rail) conducts more current than it's designed for.

In the second case, the first contact is *protective ground*. It's there
to protect you from a defective device shorting the hot end to its
chassis. The power carrying pins are connected "at the same time" (i.e.
in some random order, and possibly a couple of times, if you chose
your time resolution high enough).

Cheers
-- tomás

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Swapping Drives - Sanity Check "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-02-22 14:20 +0100
  Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-02-22 15:20 +0100
    Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-23 09:00 +0100
      Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-02-23 13:10 +0100
        Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-02-23 17:20 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-23 19:00 +0100
            Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-02-23 20:20 +0100
              Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-23 23:00 +0100
              Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-02-23 23:40 +0100
                Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-02-24 16:50 +0100
                Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-02-24 18:40 +0100
      Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-23 14:00 +0100
        Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-02-23 15:50 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-23 17:00 +0100
            Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-02-23 17:30 +0100
              Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-23 18:10 +0100
                Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-02-23 22:00 +0100
                Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-23 22:10 +0100
              Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-23 19:10 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-23 17:00 +0100
            Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-02-23 17:20 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-23 17:20 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-02-23 17:20 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-02-23 18:00 +0100
        Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-23 23:20 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-23 23:40 +0100
  Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-02-22 15:20 +0100
    Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-02-22 15:30 +0100
      Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-22 16:10 +0100
        Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-02-22 17:40 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-22 20:20 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-02-22 20:30 +0100
            Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-23 03:00 +0100
              Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-23 09:00 +0100
                Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-23 09:40 +0100
          Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-02-22 23:40 +0100

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