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Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked?

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In article <201901271924.17175.rhkramer@gmail.com> you write:
>Resending to the list -- I didn't notice that Ivan had sent this to me only, 
>and my reply, of course, then went to him only.
>
>On Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:06:46 AM Ivan Ivanov wrote:
>> Yes: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. GPLv2 is a bare
>> license and is revocable by the grantor. Search for "vsnsdualce" "gpl"
>> online to find his messages which prove that, he is a lawyer and has
>> investigated this subject very well. I am CC'ing him in case you'd
>> like to request more information. So if you didn't like the Code of
>> Conduct covertly accepted behind the scenes against your will, and
>> maybe some other questionable political decisions in technical
>> projects 
>
>> (e.g. the recent removal of useful "weboob" package which
>> have been a part of Debian for 8 years but got removed just because
>> some mad SJWs suddenly got offended at its' name) - well you know what
>> to do, and maybe vsnsdualce will be happy to help with your case free
>> of charge.

Ranting about SJWs? Check. Ignore this person.

>I *might* go read some of the stuff by vsnsdualce, but the Weboob situation is 
>not an example of a (free or GPL) license being rescinded.  (You didn't quite 
>say it was, but one could infer that is what you are trying to say by its 
>inclusion in the same paragraph.)
>
>Whatever license and rights conveyed by that license still exist, but Debian 
>(not the copyright owner) has decided no longer to include that in what they 
>distribute.
>
>You can still get the Weboob package from other sources (unless they all 
>disappear) and use the Weboob package in accordance with the license terms for 
>the package you find.

Right. This is an irrelevant side-argument.

>Just another aside: One of my takes on lawyers is that they interpret laws and 
>take legal positions for various reasons, often to further their own or their 
>client's interests, and then are willing to fight the legal battle that may 
>ensue.  A lawyer expressing an opinion does not make that opinion correct / 
>legal.

Correct. Lawyers' opinions are typically estimates of what *might*
happen, informed by their training and background. Until there is
precedent from actual cases, there's not much more to go on.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
Who needs computer imagery when you've got Brian Blessed?

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Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-01-28 01:30 +0100
  Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-01-28 01:40 +0100
    Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-01-28 10:30 +0100
      Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-01-28 12:00 +0100
        Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-28 13:30 +0100
          Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-01-28 14:00 +0100
            Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-01-28 15:10 +0100
            Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-28 16:20 +0100
              Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-01-28 17:50 +0100
          Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-01-28 14:20 +0100
            Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-01-28 15:30 +0100
      Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-01-28 16:10 +0100
  Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked?# Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-01-28 11:40 +0100
    Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked?# Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-01-28 12:10 +0100
  Re: Can a recipients rights under GNU GPL be revoked? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-01-28 13:40 +0100

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