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Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

From Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.
Date 2019-05-11 17:50 +0200
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On Fri 10 May 2019 at 13:20:39 -0500, David Wright wrote:

> On Fri 10 May 2019 at 16:28:09 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > 
> > I am not sure An Liu is asking for help with installing Red Hat. 
> 
> I understand that. But, because of the earlier post that I mentioned before,
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/05/msg00032.html
> and the thread where you commented on an overlooked paragraph in
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#Q:_How_can_I_install_sid_.28unstable.29_with_DebianInstaller.3F
> I took a look at this page to see if the two ideas were related.
> That led me nowhere, but further up this page I did see:
> 
> Q: How to install with boot floppies + netinst.iso mounted as a loop
> device in the ramdisk from a ext2 partition?

"boot floppies"; that's a blast from the past!
 
> A: You can boot the installer directly from a hard disk using LILO or
> GRUB, and the *hd-media initrd* will find your netinst.iso. See the
> DebianInstall for details.

Now augmented to be more useful (hopefully).

> which takes you up to the DebianInstall page itself. If there were
> any details here about that Q&A, they seem to have gone. The closest
> approach to an answer would be Debootstrap, but that has nothing to
> do with the netinst.iso.

I found nothing on the DebianInstall page either and, like you, don't
consider debootstrap comes into it.
 
> But it does seem that a recipe to do what's promised by the Q&A
> would answer this thread's OP: "Install Debian from Grub+ISO".
> I think Greg's reference is the closest approach, but again it
> involves debootstrap rather than the d-i. The Q&A implies that
> you can jump from Grub into the netinst.iso. The least obvious
> part is the *hd-media initrd* referred to above. What and where?

Although it is not abundantly clear, I think An Liu was after a way of
booting a netinst or DVD-1 image using GRUB's loopback device. This is,
as has been said a few times in this thread, not possible using the
initrds of those images.

Quite a few people have asked for the loop module to be added to d-i's
initrd and have even provided patches. Up to now the d-i team have not
provided this facility. loopback with GRUB can be done if the hd-media
initrd is used with the d-i kernel, but it can be a bit fraught.

> My interest in this stems from a Laptop on which you are blind until
> the kernel loads (ie text pours down the screen). No boot selection
> menu, no CMOS screens, no Grub screens.

You are in a bad way. I wouldn't even wish that on those users who see
-user as a Windows support list. :)

-- 
Brian.

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Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 10:50 +0200
  Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-10 11:00 +0200
    Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 11:10 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-10 11:30 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 11:50 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-05-10 11:40 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 12:00 +0200
          Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-10 14:20 +0200
            Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 16:20 +0200
          Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-05-10 15:30 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-10 11:50 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-05-10 12:10 +0200
          Tinker team (Was: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-11 01:10 +0200
            Re: Tinker team (Was: Is it possible to install Debian in such a  case.) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-05-11 09:10 +0200
              Re: Tinker team (Was: Is it possible to install Debian in such a  case.) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-05-11 10:00 +0200
              Re: Tinker team (Was: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-11 10:00 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 12:10 +0200
  Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-05-10 12:40 +0200
    Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-05-10 13:00 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-05-10 13:40 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-05-10 13:50 +0200
          Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-05-10 16:00 +0200
            Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 16:20 +0200
              Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-05-10 16:30 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 16:40 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-05-10 17:00 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 17:10 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-05-10 17:30 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-10 20:10 +0200
            Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-10 17:40 +0200
              Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-05-10 18:10 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-05-10 20:40 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-05-10 22:20 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-05-21 16:50 +0200
  Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-05-10 14:50 +0200
    Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 16:30 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-05-11 08:30 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-11 14:00 +0200
          Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-05-11 15:00 +0200
          Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-11 15:20 +0200
            Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-11 22:30 +0200
              Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-12 13:00 +0200
  Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 17:00 +0200
    Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-10 17:10 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 17:20 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-10 17:30 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-10 17:40 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-05-10 20:30 +0200
          Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-11 17:50 +0200
            Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-11 19:30 +0200
              Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-05-11 19:50 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-11 20:30 +0200
              Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-11 21:50 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-05-11 23:10 +0200
  Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case. An Liu <sourceonly@gmail.com> - 2019-05-13 00:20 +0200

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