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Re: date(1) in stretch and buster

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On Tuesday 09 April 2019 14:28:18 Michael Stone wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 02:03:08PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >On Tuesday 09 April 2019 09:38:43 Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> >> On 2019-04-08 18:26:23 +0300, Reco wrote:
> >> > stretch$ TZ=UTC date
> >> > Mon Apr  8 15:22:02 UTC 2019
> >> > buster$ TZ=UTC date
> >> > Mon 08 Apr 2019 03:22:04 PM UTC
> >>
> >> This is unrelated to your issue, but note that the correct TZ
> >> string for UTC is "UTC0", not "UTC". See
> >>
> >>
> >> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap08.
> >>htm l
> >
> >Yikes. Can that be actually put into English?
> >
> >I've read thru it, and the only thing I can come away is that 'if
> > UTC, then offset is required, and it can be anything from -23 to
> > +23, including your example 0 meaning no offset from UTC.
> >
> >As it now reads, theres a ton of ambiguity that needs further
> >clarification.
>
> There's a discrepency between the historic posix definition of the TZ
> environment variable, and how it works on a modern system. There's an
> official workaround that I've never actually seen used in the wild. It
> doesn't matter in practice.
>
> Mike Stone

The point I was trying to make Mike, is, if thats to be a std, its an 
extremely obtuse way of writing that std. Consequently I suspect it will 
be 100% ignored. And folks will continue to muddle along just fine. :) 

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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date(1) in stretch and buster Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-04-08 17:30 +0200
  Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Étienne Mollier <etienne.mollier@mailoo.org> - 2019-04-08 19:20 +0200
    Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 19:30 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-04-08 19:50 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Étienne Mollier <etienne.mollier@mailoo.org> - 2019-04-08 20:20 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-08 21:30 +0200
    Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-04-08 20:10 +0200
  Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2019-04-09 15:50 +0200
    Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-09 20:10 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-09 20:10 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-04-09 20:30 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-04-09 21:20 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-09 21:20 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Étienne Mollier <etienne.mollier@mailoo.org> - 2019-04-09 20:40 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-09 22:10 +0200
          Re: date(1) in stretch and buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 23:00 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 20:40 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Étienne Mollier <etienne.mollier@mailoo.org> - 2019-04-09 20:50 +0200
          Re: date(1) in stretch and buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 21:50 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-09 21:40 +0200
    Re: date(1) in stretch and buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 20:30 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-09 21:00 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 22:00 +0200
      Re: date(1) in stretch and buster Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2019-04-10 13:40 +0200
        Re: date(1) in stretch and buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-10 18:00 +0200

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