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Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

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On 2019-04-08, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As mentioned in another post, I am starting to fear for the reilability of an 
> HDD (DOAs, early failures, unwilingness of the vendor / manufacturer to 
> provide a warranty), and, therefore, I am trying to determine if an SSD could 
> be a better choice.
>
> (Someday, I expect it will be -- is that day here?)
>
>

Here's one study for you (where number of writes and enterprise-grade
drives--mentioned by someone in this thread I believe--are found not to be
determining factors for longevity or reliability):

https://www.zdnet.com/article/ssd-reliability-in-the-real-world-googles-experience/

http://0b4af6cdc2f0c5998459-c0245c5c937c5dedcca3f1764ecc9b2f.r43.cf2.rackcdn.com/23105-fast16-papers-schroeder.pdf

 Two standout conclusions from the study. First, that MLC drives are as
 reliable as the more costly SLC "enteprise" drives. This mirrors hard drive
 experience, where consumer SATA drives have been found to be as reliable as
 expensive SAS and Fibre Channel drives.

 One of the major reasons that "enterprise" SSDs are more expensive is due to
 greater over-provisioning. SSDs are over-provisioned for two main reasons: to
 allow for ample bad block replacement caused by flash wearout; and, to ensure
 that garbage collection does not cause write slowdowns.

 The paper's second major conclusion, that age, not use, correlates with
 increasing error rates, means that over-provisioning for fear of flash wearout
 is not needed. None of the drives in the study came anywhere near their write
 limits, even the 3,000 writes specified for the MLC drives.

 But it isn't all good news. SSD UBER rates are higher than disk rates, which
 means that backing up SSDs is even more important than it is with disks. The
 SSD is less likely to fail during its normal life, but more likely to lose
 data.

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Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-06 19:40 +0200
  Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to  disk when I repeatedly save a file "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 22:40 +0200
  Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-04-06 23:50 +0200
    Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to  disk when I repeatedly save a file Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-07 00:40 +0200
    Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-07 11:50 +0200
      Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-07 12:00 +0200
      Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-07 15:10 +0200
    Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-07 14:20 +0200
      Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-04-07 15:00 +0200
      Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-04-07 18:30 +0200
  Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-04-07 03:30 +0200
    Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-07 15:00 +0200
  Re: [OFF-LIST] Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-07 14:00 +0200
  Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat> - 2019-04-07 22:30 +0200
    Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-04-07 22:30 +0200
      Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-08 09:50 +0200
        Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-08 14:50 +0200
          Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-08 15:40 +0200
          Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-08 15:40 +0200
            Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-08 15:50 +0200
              Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-08 16:20 +0200
                Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-08 17:00 +0200
                Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-08 18:20 +0200
                Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-08 19:00 +0200
                Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to  disk when I repeatedly save a file "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 19:20 +0200
            Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-04-12 11:20 +0200
              Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-12 14:10 +0200
                Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-12 19:20 +0200
                Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written  to disk when I repeatedly save a file Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-04-12 20:50 +0200
                Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to  disk when I repeatedly save a file "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-04-12 22:50 +0200
          Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to  disk when I repeatedly save a file "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 15:50 +0200
            Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-08 18:00 +0200
      Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-08 14:40 +0200
        Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to  disk when I repeatedly save a file David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 16:40 +0200

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