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Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

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On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 02:39:35PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 21:33:03 +0900
> Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > My image of an ideal solution is a piece of software that can present 
> > email to a remote MTA (ie an MTA not on the local machine) for
> > delivery, but is not itself an MTA, and certainly has no capability
> > to listen for incoming mail.
> > 
> 
> a) Sendmail. Not the full-featured MTA, but the utility.
> https://clients.javapipe.com/knowledgebase/132/How-to-Test-Sendmail-From-Command-Line-on-Linux.html
> 

Oh ah. Right, I hadn't separated the two in my mind. This may also do 
the job well I'm guessing.

> b) Write it yourself. If you can do simple scripting then you can write
> something that talks basic SMTP to a remote SMTP server.
> 
> Here's basic unencrypted SMTP:
> https://my.esecuredata.com/index.php?/knowledgebase/article/112/test-your-smtp-mail-server-via-telnet
> 

<snip>

Yes, I had considered that too, and was going to script something up 
over a telnet session (inside my home LAN, albeit through a VPN to be 
able to tunnel back through a NAT'ing router) if this thread didn't turn 
up anything useful. But it did. :)

Also, I'm an engineer by training and follow the principle of re-use -- 
if there's a tool out there that does what I want I'd rather use it than 
write a new one. I admit I sometimes stray from that in the name of 
learning, but on this occasion I just want to solve a problem and move 
on.

> 
> c) Use a standard MTA and tell it not to listen to anything from
> outside your network. Use your firewall to not accept SMTP on the WAN
> port, and unless you have previously received email directly then the
> SMTP port shouldn't be open anyway. 
> 
> Use the MTA's configuration to listen only to localhost. Restart it and
> check where it's listening with netstat -tpan as root. 
> 
> That way you have two mechanisms to prevent access, even if you
> misconfigure one of them you should still be OK. After you have the MTA
> running and sending email where you want it to go, use ShieldsUp!! on
> https://grc.com to check which ports are open to the outside. Select
> 'All Service Ports' to check TCP/1-1055.
> 

Yes, agreed, this should also work. One thing I didn't mention in my 
original post is that I have to build all software for the "client" 
machine from scratch, and I'd expect a full-strength MTA to be a large 
project to build from source (many and potentially complex dependencies 
and so on), while a simple tool is likely to have a smaller and less 
complex dependency tree. Also because security is important on this box, 
every package I add needs careful consideration to make sure it doesn't 
compromise that -- again nudging me towards the smaller, simpler tool 
with fewer dependencies.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Mark

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Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 14:40 +0200
  Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Thomas Pircher <thp+debian@p5r.uk> - 2019-04-08 15:20 +0200
    Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 15:50 +0200
    Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-04-09 01:00 +0200
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  Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Ryan Nowakowski <tubaman@fattuba.com> - 2019-04-08 15:30 +0200
    Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 15:40 +0200
  Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-04-08 15:40 +0200
    Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 16:40 +0200
  Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-08 17:50 +0200
    Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-04-09 03:50 +0200
  Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Jan Claeys <lists@janc.be> - 2019-04-09 02:40 +0200
    Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2019-04-11 17:50 +0200
      Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-11 18:00 +0200
        Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2019-04-11 18:20 +0200
      Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-11 18:10 +0200
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              Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-12 12:30 +0200
                Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-04-12 13:10 +0200
                Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-04-12 14:00 +0200
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                Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-12 15:30 +0200
                Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-04-12 17:00 +0200
                Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-04-12 23:20 +0200
                Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-13 00:20 +0200
      Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-11 18:10 +0200
      Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-04-11 18:20 +0200
      Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email Jan Claeys <lists@janc.be> - 2019-04-11 19:10 +0200

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