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Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

From	Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster
Date	2019-04-04 22:20 +0200
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On Thursday 04 April 2019 15:57:17 Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 03:46:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > The solution seems simple enough, fix wayland.  This is after all a
> > multiuser and multitasking OS, why go out of the way, way out of the
> > way to make it work like win-3.0?
>
> The notion of running a client as user X to talk to a display server
> running as user Y seems to directly contradict the Wayland security
> model.  As far as I can understand it, given the rather vague Wayland
> documentation I've seen so far.
>
> I think the "correct" fix for synaptic would be to redesign it to run
> the graphical interface as you, communicating with an auxiliary
> process that runs as root which can install and remove packages.  That
> second process could be a child of synaptic, or an independent daemon
> of some kind. Authentication methods to be determined by whomever does
> the work.
>
> I would not describe this solution as "simple".  Maybe you had a
> different solution in mind.

I didn't intend to say it was simple. Its also incorrect. Fix one or the 
other, but I don't expect it to be "simple".  You fix wayland once, or 
you fix half the os's utilities.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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'synaptic' removed from buster David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-04-04 13:00 +0200
  Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-04-04 13:00 +0200
    Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-04-04 13:40 +0200
      Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Francisco M Neto <fmneto@fmneto.com.br> - 2019-04-04 14:50 +0200
        Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-04 15:00 +0200
          Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-04-05 17:10 +0200
            Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-04-05 17:50 +0200
              Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 23:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 00:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 01:00 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 01:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-06 04:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-04-06 09:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-10 18:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Nazar Zhuk <nazar@zhuk.online> - 2019-04-11 00:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-04-11 01:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-11 05:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-11 05:20 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Nazar Zhuk <nazar@zhuk.online> - 2019-04-11 21:00 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-11 22:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-06 15:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 22:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-06 10:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-04-06 10:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 11:00 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2019-04-06 12:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 22:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-06 14:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-06 15:00 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-08 14:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Jan Claeys <lists@janc.be> - 2019-04-06 14:50 +0200
        Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-04-04 15:10 +0200
          Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-04 16:20 +0200
            Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-04-04 18:00 +0200
              Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-04 21:30 +0200
            Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 20:30 +0200
          Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-04-04 19:40 +0200
            Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-04-04 19:50 +0200
              Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-04 21:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-04 22:00 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-04 22:20 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-04-04 22:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-04-05 17:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-05 20:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-06 05:20 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-06 15:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-09 22:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Jan Claeys <lists@janc.be> - 2019-04-05 21:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-05 22:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-05 22:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Jan Claeys <lists@janc.be> - 2019-04-06 15:00 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2019-04-06 01:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-04-05 17:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 08:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-05 08:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 09:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-05 12:00 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 12:20 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-05 12:30 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-05 13:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 13:50 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-05 14:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 13:40 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-05 22:20 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 03:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-05 11:10 +0200
                Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 12:00 +0200
        Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-04-04 15:50 +0200
          Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Francisco M Neto <fmneto@fmneto.com.br> - 2019-04-05 15:30 +0200
            Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 15:40 +0200
              Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Francisco M Neto <fmneto@fmneto.com.br> - 2019-04-05 17:30 +0200
            Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-05 19:50 +0200
              Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Charlie <taoquester@gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 00:40 +0200
      Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-04 15:00 +0200
  Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-04 14:30 +0200
    Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-04-04 16:40 +0200
    Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-05 14:50 +0200
      Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-04-05 20:40 +0200
        Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-05 21:30 +0200
  Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-04 15:00 +0200

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