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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: systemd error |
| Date | 2019-03-13 16:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xBdG1-4XR-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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Default User wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 04:49 Ivan Ivanov <qmastery16@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, I know a good solution that will work 100%: switch from Debian
> > to Devuan to avoid this SystemD. sadly Debian does not provide the
> > init system freedom, but if you'd switch to its' brother distribution
> > (Devuan) it still provides all the benefits of Debian + the freedom
> > from SystemD.
> >
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, Ivan.
>
> Actually, I had high hopes for Devuan. But I am afraid that it's just too
> little, too late.
>
> The cancer of systemd has metastasized too far and the GNU/Linux patent is
> terminally ill.
>
> How sad that once again, the bad guys won because good men did nothing.
In point of fact:
- I run several hundred Debian stretch systems without systemd
running as init, or doing very much otherwise.
"apt install sysvinit-core" was all that is needed.
- Those are almost all servers, but also includes some desktops.
- The debian-init-diversity mail archives are here:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/debian-init-diversity/2019-March/thread.html
and you can see that good work is being done on sysvinit,
startpar, insserv and elogind.
I don't know why this doesn't get more publicity.
If you are having problems with systemd and they feel intractable,
it's perfectly reasonable to go back to sysvinit, and it's only a little
work to move to openrc and a moderate amount to use completely different
init systems.
-dsr-
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