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Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

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Hi,

i wrote:
> > This function shall obtain the drive status and not wait until the
> > status of the medium is decided.

mick crane wrote:
> I have noticed that people whose first language might not be english use
> "shall" as apposed to "will" or "should".

The topic has its own wikipedia article:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shall_and_will

In german it is "soll" (= shall/demanding), "sollte" (= should/proposing),
and "wird" (= will/predicting or shall/predicting).

I meant it in the way of technical specification of purpose.


Dan Ritter wrote:
> The English use it more than Americans do.

In school it was a big deal to distinguish "will" and "shall".
(I was very eager to forget the exact rules when nobody cared any more.)


I wrote:
> > I [...] needed several curious attempts during 2.5 years to finally
> > understand what happened.

Gene Heskett wrote:
> with better tools that I.

Only fgrep in local /usr/src/linux-source-3.16 and linux-4.1.6 and
Iceweasel were involved.

In the end it was about reading all commits to sr.c, sr_ioctl.c, and
cdrom.c since the release of kernel 2.6.18 (where i knew that the bug
was not in) up to 3.16 (where i first experienced the bug).
Like
  https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commits/master/drivers/scsi/sr.c

As said, i was very curious.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-12-10 15:00 +0100
  Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-12-10 16:00 +0100
    Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-12-10 18:50 +0100
      Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-12-10 20:00 +0100
        Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-12-10 21:10 +0100
          Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-12-11 01:20 +0100
            Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-12-11 12:40 +0100
              Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-12-11 18:00 +0100
                Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-12-11 18:30 +0100
                Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-12-11 18:40 +0100
                Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Tony van der Hoff <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2018-12-11 18:50 +0100
                Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-12-11 20:50 +0100
                Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-12-11 20:30 +0100
          Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 13:40 +0100
            Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-12-11 15:50 +0100
              Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-12-12 01:10 +0100
                Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-12-12 12:30 +0100
                Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-12-12 21:20 +0100

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