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Re: Installing package NOT in repository

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Installing package NOT in repository
Date	2018-08-21 17:10 +0200
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On Tue 21 Aug 2018 at 14:48:25 (+0200), tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 08:02:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Odd, maybe apt does not look in $PATH?
> 
> There's no reason to assume that, unless when looking for an executable
> (i.e. those things which tend to live in /bin and /usr/bin).

… and then it will of course be hashed, and so waste no time at all.
But Gene's mention of $PATH was a complete red herring. Or cargo cult.

And consider this: it would be seriously mental to place downloaded
files, which might even have been obtained from untrusted sources,
and stick them in your $PATH ready for execution.

> Actually, dpkg's man page mentions $PATH, but only for searching
> executables, which is to be expected. Not for searching packages.

Yes, and I think one can see why dpkg explicitly mentions $PATH. It
uses a lot of helper programs for unpacking archives, computing MD5s,
etc, and $PATH is where they're expected to be. Expected, but people
using dpkg from the commandline might well have seriously broken
systems with missing or incompatible binaries, and --force-bad-path
attempts to deal with that.

> To me, it would be a surprise.

IMO it would be a grave bug in the Debian project's thinking.

Cheers,
David.

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Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-13 13:50 +0200
  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-13 14:00 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-13 14:30 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Samuel Henrique <samueloph@debian.org> - 2018-08-13 14:40 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2018-08-17 11:30 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-17 13:40 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-17 14:30 +0200
              Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 14:50 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-17 17:00 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-17 20:50 +0200
              Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2018-08-21 13:00 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-21 14:10 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-21 14:50 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-21 15:40 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-21 16:40 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-21 17:40 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-21 19:30 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-21 17:30 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-21 18:00 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 19:00 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-13 15:00 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:10 +0200
  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-08-13 14:10 +0200
  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Matthew Crews <mailinglists@mattcrews.com> - 2018-08-13 15:00 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 15:50 +0200
  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 17:40 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 17:50 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Samuel Henrique <samueloph@debian.org> - 2018-08-13 18:00 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository tomas@tuxteam.de - 2018-08-13 18:20 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-13 18:50 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-13 19:10 +0200
              Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-13 19:30 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-13 18:00 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 19:50 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Jason <electron@emypeople.net> - 2018-08-15 13:10 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 04:10 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-14 09:00 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:00 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-14 17:30 +0200
  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-08-14 05:50 +0200
  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-14 08:50 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-14 13:50 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-15 07:10 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:30 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-15 10:00 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-15 10:30 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-15 08:20 +0200

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