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Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

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On 08/18/2018 11:42 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 18 Aug 2018 at 10:02:39 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally. <chuckle>
>>
>> I wish this for every question on the mailing list but sadly that
>> rarely happens, leading to a lot of pointless traffic to wade through.
>> On every question there's always the "helpful" people who just wants
>> to share their 2 cents worth of opinion and derail the question in the
>> process.
>>
>> I guess that's partially because a lot of people don't know how to ask
>> a question[,] so everyone assumes that it is not to be taken literally.
>>
>> Maybe I'm not a hundred years old like you guys, but on the inside I'm
>> just as grumpy, err, I mean "opinionated"!
> 
> . A lot of OPs provide very little background information. Sometimes
> this may be because they don't know what *is* relevant, but often a
> thread turns into an episode of "Twenty Questions" because of what
> seems like a reluctance to reveal any facts about their system.
> 
> . Following this, when the OP apparently "disappears" after making
> their first post, people are left little option but to make guesses
> about what their problem might be caused by. One cannot but suspect
> that many OPs are helped by these discussions (the bits where the
> guess was correct), fix their system and then say nothing or,
> occasionally, post "Thanks. Period." Whereupon one of the helpers
> might ask them to be more helpful and reveal which solution fixed
> which problem so that others might benefit.
> 
> . Some OPs provide facts which, when people start investigating, are
> found to be incorrect, so the thread bifurcates into those accepting
> the factoid and others disputing it.
> 
> . Some OPs post what they want to do without realising their
> assumptions already made nor the implications of those assumptions
> which might lead to undesirable consequences they hadn't foreseen.
> 
> . Many OPs are not writing in their native language, so it would
> be unkind to only take their words literally.
> 
> All that said, "Careful what you wish for". A stilted overdefined
> conversation will probably not be as helpful to people. In a
> troubleshooting environment you want your thinking to be lateral:
> only the code itself is literal.
> 

<chuckle> In a way I've been on the other side of this topic.
I spent decades in what might be termed customer support, field service, 
or engineering support. My background with milli-volt low frequency 
signals got me a job in construction inspection where I ended up 
rejecting large stainless steel pipes (welds rusted) and grade beams 
(out of square).

I admit I have an atypical world view and wish constraints others don't 
see as relevant. On another list I was asking questions about sources 
for some odd equipment. I explicitly said certain characteristics were 
explicitly unacceptable. I got replies telling me where I could square 
the unacceptable product. <groan ;>

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Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-16 14:50 +0200
  Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-16 16:30 +0200
    Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-16 16:50 +0200
    Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-16 17:10 +0200
  Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 16:30 +0200
    Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-19 15:40 +0200
      Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 17:20 +0200
        Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Tony van der Hoff <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2018-08-20 18:20 +0200
          Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 19:10 +0200
            Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-20 19:30 +0200
              Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 21:40 +0200
                Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-21 22:10 +0200
                Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:20 +0200
                Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-21 23:50 +0200
        Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-21 13:20 +0200
  Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2018-08-16 17:10 +0200
    Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-16 19:50 +0200
      Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-16 21:30 +0200
      Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 10:10 +0200
        Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-18 11:10 +0200
        Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-18 18:50 +0200
          Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux  handheld Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-18 19:40 +0200
            Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux  handheld Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-18 21:30 +0200
          Sid: NFSv3 mounting problem Grzegorz Sójka <pld@sojka.co> - 2018-08-18 21:40 +0200
            Re: Sid: NFSv3 mounting problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-18 21:50 +0200
          Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 08:40 +0200
            Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux  handheld David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-19 20:40 +0200
              Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux  handheld Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-20 02:30 +0200

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