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Re: If not "newbie" then ????

From cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net>
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Subject Re: If not "newbie" then ????
Date 2018-07-26 14:30 +0200
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This is taking me down a memory lane I don't necessarily have but have 
heard about! Ah, the early days of computers!

On 07/23/2018 05:14 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 23.07.18 10:28, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>> On Sunday, 22 Jul 2018 at 05:39, Tom Browder wrote:
>>> Sounds like there are a lot of fellow travelers here.  If you lean
>>> more towards loving programming as I do (started in FORTRAN IV in
>>> 1961), you might check out the new world of Perl 6 (https://perl6.org)
>>
>> Interesting.  I started way back when with FORTRAN 66 and APL but I have
>> moved on to Julia (julialang.org) these days.
> 
> In 1972 we were still submitting FORTRAN IV jobs on Hollerith punched
> cards, to run on an ICL1901 24-bit mainframe, which half-filled a room
> with its fridge-sized chain printer and big card reader and disk drives.
> 
> But the electrical engineering department had its own little HP2100A
> 16-bit minicomputer, with 16k words of 980 ns ferrite core memory. (Very
> spiffy stuff, back then.) If you overwrote the punched tape bootloader
> in the first dozen words or so of RAM, then you had to load it by hand
> from the frontpanel switch register, word by word, in octal.
> 
> The three-chip 8080A CPU had become the single-chip 8085 by the time I
> programmed it, before moving to the 8051 microcontroller, but sprinkling
> 13 of 'em in a system, 12 mask programmed, so no coding errors permitted,
> 
> My first home CPU was a TMS9900, which like the COSMAC had 16 x 16 bit
> registers, but not on-chip. A pointer register set the location of the
> register workspace in RAM, so that on interrupt or subroutine call,
> changing one register gave a new set of registers instantly. It also had
> a barrel shifter, rotating a register any number of bits in a single
> instruction, optionally controlled by the 4 LSBs of R0. (Magic for
> computing sine and cos by the CORDIC method.) And it had 16x16 multiply
> and 32/16 divide.
> 
> But the contemporary COSMAC was well ahead of its time - a CMOS CPU in 1976.
> 
> Erik

This sounds a lot like a friend of mine who is much older than me, who 
used punch cards. Luckily I was a teen in the dawn of the 
microscomputing age. It was mostly cassette tape and for the rich and 
well off, the 5.25" floppy disk drive. I never encountered punch cards. 
I bet it was a PITA compared to today.

This also reminds me of the old days of assembly language programming on 
the CoCo 3 (68B09E CPU) using disk EDASAM+ I actually did a good bit of 
that (pun half intended).

Never learned x86 assembly.

I'm going to start another thread (much more on Debian topic I hope) 
about assemblers, as I'm curious about that too.

I guess I get curious about everything. See what you guys started? :P

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    Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 12:40 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-07-23 10:30 +0200
        Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-07-23 11:20 +0200
          Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-26 14:30 +0200
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