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Re: If not "newbie" then ????

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On 07/22/2018 04:07 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 07/21/2018 04:46 PM, cyaiplexys wrote:
>> On 07/21/2018 11:42 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> When I'm "ignorant" and know it, I refer to myself as a "newbie".
>>> My first contact with Linux was when Squeeze was just introduced.
>>> I've been around computers for a while [remember 12AX7 based CPU's?]. 
>>> As a BSEE student 50+ years ago I took an introductory programming 
>>> course. Later I programmed in 8080 assembler - at the time we were 
>>> moving to 8085. As a consumer I ended up in the M$ land.
>>>
>>> So, how would this group have me to refer to myself without claiming 
>>> competency I just *DO NOT* have?
>>
>> Wizard. With that many years of experience in computers in general,
> 
> Let's say I and computers have crossed paths a number of times. The only 
> time I was hired for my computer competency ended in %$$%^&( ! ;/
> When I did 8080 assembler, I was hired for my experience with low 
> frequency millivolt signals and a project needed someone who wasn't 
> awestruck by computers.
> 
>> I think you earned at least that much. Actually, IMHO the answer 
>> should be "Whatever the hell you want to call yourself." :) IOW, it's 
>> entirely up to you.
>>
>> If you are trying to find a label that everyone can understand you by, 
>> well, I don't know if labels really work that well since many people 
>> have many views on what a certain label even means.
> 
> It's not so much I'm looking for a label me, rather as a flag that the 
> question is one a newbie would ask. I ask it because I'm missing some 
> factoid that "everybody knows" but not I.

Well, a simple statement to the effect of "I am good with computers but 
this is one topic I'm not familiar with." type thing should do the 
trick, I would think. Or "I just started learning about this subject..."

>>
>> What I do is try to briefly mention (if it's even necessary) that I 
>> have a lot of experience using Linux but am stumped on a certain 
>> problem as I don't often deal with that situation. No harm in that, I 
>> think. After all, Linux stuff is so vast that not everyone can know 
>> every single thing about it. Thus why we have these groups. :)
>>
>> I've been programming for 35+ years myself. And been there when 
>> dial-up BBSs were a thing (I am sure you remember those) even before 
>> there was such a thing as "Internet".
>>
>>> P.S. I've saved ~6 years of useful posts from this group. I've been 
>>> trying to figure out how to organize it in order to create a QWSBFA 
>>> rather than a FAQ. QWSBFA=="Questions Which Should Be Frequently 
>>> Asked" ;/
>>>
>>> OWL ducks fer cover ;}
>>
>> I assume you mean for your own computer (since anyone can use Google 
>> to search the lists).
> 
> Yes. Originally I saved them locally as a convenience - was on dial-up. 
> Now, using SeaMonkey, I have a choice of tagging a post with a choice of 
>  >30 tags (some times with multiple tags).

I use Thunderbird (which has the same feature) so I think I know where 
you're coming from. I do that with things too and then I eventually go 
through my Archives folder (where I place those tagged items) and get 
them moved off to my CherryTree notes or links.

>> Try CherryTree. I use that program for everything. It's 
>> cross-platform. I download it from the web site instead of using the 
>> version in the Debian Repo as the latest version fixes some annoying 
>> bugs (of which I kinda forgot what but would quickly be reminded if I 
>> used the repo version).
> 
> I browsed its manual then installed the version in the Debian Repo. It 
> should address two problems:
>    1. finding relevant posts.
>    2. organizing my bookmarks folder. Like Topsy it just grew.

I think as long as you don't need it for code snippets, you should be 
OK. But the newer version may have new useful features. It depends on 
what you need. I think one annoyance was the background color on the 
code snippets. I keep a LOT of code snippets in various languages 
(especially for work).

>> I think that would be useful for categorizing questions and you can 
>> even search through them. If you want to save to PDF or HTML, it can 
>> export to those formats as well.
>>
>> I've used CherryTree for everything from keeping code snippets to 
>> installation instructions to writing up tutorials (and exporting to 
>> HTML).

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If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-21 17:50 +0200
  Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-07-21 18:30 +0200
    Re: Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-22 00:20 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-07-22 03:50 +0200
        Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-22 17:10 +0200
          Re: If not "newbie" then ??? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-07-22 18:10 +0200
          Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-22 21:10 +0200
            Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-26 14:20 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-07-22 15:10 +0200
        Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-22 17:30 +0200
    Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-07-22 03:40 +0200
  Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-22 00:10 +0200
    Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-07-22 04:10 +0200
    Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-22 10:10 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-22 17:20 +0200
        Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-24 11:40 +0200
      CherryTree - was [Re: If not "newbie" then ????] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-04 12:30 +0200
        Re: CherryTree - was [Re: If not "newbie" then ????] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-04 12:50 +0200
          Re: CherryTree - was [Re: If not "newbie" then ????] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-04 13:00 +0200
            Re: CherryTree - was [Re: If not "newbie" then ????] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-04 13:10 +0200
    Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-22 14:20 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-22 15:10 +0200
        Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-22 17:20 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-22 17:20 +0200
    Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-05 14:50 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-08-06 05:30 +0200
        Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-06 15:30 +0200
          Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-06 16:50 +0200
            Searching and organizing emails (Re: If not "newbie" then ????) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 16:40 +0200
              Re: Searching and organizing emails (Re: If not "newbie" then ????) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-23 18:40 +0200
  Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-07-22 12:30 +0200
    Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 12:40 +0200
      Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-07-23 10:30 +0200
        Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-07-23 11:20 +0200
          Re: If not "newbie" then ???? cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-07-26 14:30 +0200
  Survival Notes [Was: Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-07-22 14:20 +0200
    Re: Survival Notes [Was: Re: If not "newbie" then ???? Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-07-22 14:50 +0200

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