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Re: [OT] An easier database

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On Sun 22 Jul 2018 at 19:14:40 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-07-22 at 17:26, Leandro Noferini wrote:
> 
> > Ciao a tutti,
> > 
> > some friends with no computing skills need to catalog some objects
> > with some features like components, costs and images. I gave a look
> > to base in libreoffice suite but it looks too difficult to use and to
> > mantain.
> > 
> > Is there something easier to use in linux/debian?
> > 
> > Something like filemaker of years ago.
> 
> Without knowing what their project actually looks like, just based on
> that description, the thing that springs first to my mind is tellico.
> It's a collection-management program, and while its predefined
> "collection of what?" categories probably don't cover what your friends
> need, it's allegedly extensible with custom collection-type definitions.
> 
> It's not strictly a database, but for a sufficiently simple type of
> collection inventory it's good enough, and the UI is better than any
> full database solution I've personally encountered. (Which, to be fair,
> is not saying particularly much.)

Without intending any criticism of the suggestion, particularly for
this use case where a DE might be assumed, it looks very heavy on
dependencies. On my system, it would require 90 packages minimum:

$ apt-get -s --no-install-recommends install tellico
[…]
The following additional packages will be installed:
  docbook-xml docbook-xsl kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools lib¹
[…]
  ntrack-module-libnl-0 oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
  phonon-backend-gstreamer-common plasma-scriptengine-javascript sgml-data
  soprano-daemon tellico-data tellico-scripts
Suggested packages:
  docbook docbook-dsssl docbook-defguide dbtoepub docbook-xsl-doc-html
  | docbook-xsl-doc-pdf | docbook-xsl-doc-text | docbook-xsl-doc
  docbook-xsl-saxon fop libsaxon-java libxalan2-java libxslthl-java xalan
  djvulibre-bin finger exiv2 fam iodbc hspell
  libqt4-declarative-folderlistmodel libqt4-declarative-gestures
  libqt4-declarative-particles libqt4-declarative-shaders qt4-qmlviewer
  libqt4-dev media-player-info phonon-backend-vlc gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly
  phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer perlsgml w3-recs opensp virtuoso-minimal
Recommended packages:
  icoutils libcanberra-pulse | libcanberra-gstreamer sound-theme-freedesktop
  upower libqca2-plugins libqt4-sql-mysql | libqt4-sql-odbc | libqt4-sql-psql
  | libqt4-sql-sqlite | libqt4-sql-sqlite2 | libqt4-sql-ibase tellico-doc
  khelpcenter4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  docbook-xml docbook-xsl kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools lib¹
[…]
  ntrack-module-libnl-0 oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
  phonon-backend-gstreamer-common plasma-scriptengine-javascript sgml-data
  soprano-daemon tellico tellico-data tellico-scripts
0 upgraded, 90 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

The eight recommendations in turn lead to 100 more packages:

$ apt-get -s install tellico
[…]
The following additional packages will be installed:
  docbook-xml docbook-xsl icoutils kate-data katepart kde-runtime
  kde-runtime-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools
  kdoctools5 khelpcenter khelpcenter4 kinit kio lib¹
[…]
  ntrack-module-libnl-0
  oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
  phonon-backend-gstreamer-common phonon4qt5 phonon4qt5-backend-vlc
  plasma-scriptengine-javascript pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils rtkit sgml-data
  sonnet-plugins soprano-daemon sound-theme-freedesktop tellico-data
  tellico-doc tellico-scripts upower usbmuxd
Suggested packages:
  docbook docbook-dsssl docbook-defguide dbtoepub docbook-xsl-doc-html
  | docbook-xsl-doc-pdf | docbook-xsl-doc-text | docbook-xsl-doc
  docbook-xsl-saxon fop libsaxon-java libxalan2-java libxslthl-java xalan
  libterm-readline-gnu-perl | libterm-readline-perl-perl djvulibre-bin finger
  exiv2 fam libusbmuxd-tools iodbc hspell media-player-info
  libqt4-declarative-folderlistmodel libqt4-declarative-gestures
  libqt4-declarative-particles libqt4-declarative-shaders qt4-qmlviewer
  libqt4-dev phonon-backend-vlc gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly
  phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer pavumeter pavucontrol paman paprefs perlsgml
  w3-recs opensp virtuoso-minimal
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  docbook-xml docbook-xsl icoutils kate-data katepart kde-runtime
  kde-runtime-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools
  kdoctools5 khelpcenter khelpcenter4 kinit kio lib¹
[…]
  ntrack-module-libnl-0
  oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
  phonon-backend-gstreamer-common phonon4qt5 phonon4qt5-backend-vlc
  plasma-scriptengine-javascript pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils rtkit sgml-data
  sonnet-plugins soprano-daemon sound-theme-freedesktop tellico tellico-data
  tellico-doc tellico-scripts upower usbmuxd
0 upgraded, 190 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

¹ snipped all packages named lib* just to reduce the line count.

Never having seen or used it, it just seems a touch profligate.
I only post this as a warning to non-DE users.

Cheers,
David.

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[OT] An easier database Leandro Noferini <lnoferin@cybervalley.org> - 2018-07-22 23:50 +0200
  Re: [OT] An easier database Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-07-23 00:20 +0200
  Re: [OT] An easier database The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-07-23 01:20 +0200
    Re: [OT] An easier database David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-07-23 20:10 +0200
      Re: [OT] An easier database Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-07-24 11:50 +0200
        Re: [OT] An easier database David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-07-24 18:00 +0200
          Re: [OT] An easier database Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-07-25 12:10 +0200
            Re: Re: [OT] An easier database Clive Standbridge <list-user@tgstandbridges.plus.com> - 2018-07-25 20:40 +0200
              Re: [OT] An easier database Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 21:10 +0200
                Re: [OT] An easier database Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-07-27 00:50 +0200
  Re: [OT] An easier database David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-07-24 06:20 +0200

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