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Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch"

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch"
Date 2018-07-19 14:10 +0200
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On 07/18/2018 09:43 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:10:25 -0500
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> 
>> I found [https://github.com/scottwilliambeasley/debian-from-scratch].
>>
>> Is there recommended reading in addition to
>> [http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/7.9/] ?
> 
> This is the Holy Book of the current version. It contains everything
> you need to know to build an arbitrary Linux operating system.

I have a much narrower focus - a proper subset of Debian.

> 
> Note that it is a two-stage project: first, a host system is used to
> build a very minimal part-autonomous running system that supports the
> compilation tools, then this system is used firstly to recompile itself
> (against its own libraries now, not the hosts's) then to start building
> a more useful system.
> 
> I'm guessing that Mr Beasley's project follows LFS as far as getting
> the self-compiled system running, then switches to building some basic
> Debian components and setting up directories, etc. The rest of the
> Debian system is then installed with first dpkg then apt from binaries,
> so the result isn't a true From Scratch system, where *everything* is
> built from source.

My goal is not what you would term a true LFS system.
It is focused on what Beekmans writes in his preface stating "... but 
also serve as an ideal learning opportunity for programmers and system 
administrators to enhance their (existing) Linux skills."

As I'm interested more in system administration than programming, I see 
minimal advantage in enduring the compiles. My focus would be on which 
packages were selected and why in the order chosen.

> 
>>
>> Are discussions somewhere?
> 
> Go back to the main LFS page and there are links to other documents and
> mailing lists. I would suspect actually re-creating Debian will give
> rise to problems that the LFS people won't be able to help with very
> much. You may also end up with a Debian that isn't quite standard, and
> may have maintenance problems.
> 

When I asked if there were discussions anywhere, I was specifically 
referring to the latest "Debian from Scratch". I've been following 
lfs-chat@lists.linuxfromscratch.org  for about three years :}

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Current version of "Debian From Scratch" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-18 15:20 +0200
  Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-07-18 16:50 +0200
    Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-19 14:10 +0200
      Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-07-19 14:30 +0200
        Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-19 16:00 +0200

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