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Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

From Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror
Date 2018-11-05 23:00 +0100
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Michael Stone wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 09:11:46PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>PS : aren't you confusing "netinst" with "netboot", which requires a 
>>network connection to a mirror ?
>
>There used to be bootable business card netinst images that had almost 
>nothing other than the kernel and the installer, and needed a mirror to 
>get even a minimally functional system. I think the kernel+installer got 
>too porky for those images in the last couple of releases.

In the end, they were too fragile and caused a support nightmare so we
dropped them. People didn't understand that they were very tightly
tied to the archive, and if anything changed (e.g. a point release)
things would fail. The images were also already too big to fit on a
business-card sized CD.

Instead, we now see people struggling with netboot setups that are
similarly fragile as things change. :-(

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
"Further comment on how I feel about IBM will appear once I've worked out
 whether they're being malicious or incompetent. Capital letters are forecast."
 Matthew Garrett, http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/30675.html

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debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without  mirror David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-11-02 06:50 +0100
  Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without  mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-03 01:20 +0100
    Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-11-03 04:10 +0100
      Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-03 10:10 +0100
        Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-11-03 12:50 +0100
          Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-03 14:40 +0100
      Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-03 16:40 +0100
        Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-03 19:50 +0100
          Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-03 21:30 +0100
            Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-04 00:30 +0100
              Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-04 00:40 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-04 01:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2018-11-04 11:50 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-04 14:50 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-11-04 23:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-05 22:00 +0100
        Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-11-03 20:30 +0100
          Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-03 21:40 +0100
            Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-04 01:30 +0100
              Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-11-04 03:10 +0100
              Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-04 10:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-04 15:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-04 16:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-11-04 16:50 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-04 17:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-04 19:10 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-11-05 17:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-05 18:30 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-05 21:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-11-05 22:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-05 23:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-11-06 10:10 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 10:50 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-11-06 16:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-11-06 18:30 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-06 19:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-11-06 05:30 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-06 11:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-11-06 15:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-06 17:10 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-05 22:30 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-06 00:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-11-06 02:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-06 20:20 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-11-07 20:00 +0100
                Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-07 21:40 +0100
            Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-11-04 03:10 +0100
              Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-04 15:10 +0100
      Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-11-03 21:50 +0100
        Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-11-04 03:10 +0100
          Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-11-04 13:20 +0100
    Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-03 16:00 +0100
    Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install  without mirror Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-11-03 16:50 +0100

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