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Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage

From bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage
Date 2018-10-20 02:40 +0200
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote:

> On Sat 13 Oct 2018 at 21:48:11 (-0400), bw wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 21:04:58 (-0400), bw wrote:
> > > > I would sure be interested in your method of running firefox on stretch, 
> > > > without using extensions or addons from outside the debian repositories?
> > > 
> > > After installing it, I type, say, my-cups to open up the browser for
> > > CUPS administration. (Of course I get all the previously opened tabs.)
> > > I have a slew of bash functions according to what I want to see come up,
> > > like my-weather my-forecast my-radar … …
> > > 
> > > $ type my-cups
> > > my-cups is a function
> > > my-cups ()
> > > {
> > >     local SITE="${1:-http://localhost:631/}";
> > >     -myfirefox "$SITE"
> > > }
> > > $ type -- -myfirefox
> > > -myfirefox is a function
> > > -myfirefox ()
> > > {
> > >    grep -q "$HOSTNAME-$MYCODENAME" <<< "$BROWSERCODENAMES" && printf 'myfirefox %s\n' "$1" && ( /usr/bin/firefox "$1" & ) || printf '%s\n' "Incorrect release for firefox"
> > > }
> > > $ 
> > > 
> > > As for other packages, here's a list of the origin of packages on this
> > > stretch installation, but filtered with   grep -v 'main_binary'
> > > (it's massaged output from   apt-cache dump.)
> > > 
> > > Package: amd64-microcode Version: 3.20180524.1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: emacs24-common-non-dfsg Version: 24.5+1-2 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: firmware-amd-graphics Version: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: firmware-ipw2x00 Version: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: firmware-iwlwifi Version: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: firmware-linux Version: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: firmware-linux-nonfree Version: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: firmware-misc-nonfree Version: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: firmware-realtek Version: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: intel-microcode Version: 3.20180807a.1~deb9u1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_debian-security_dists_stretch_updates_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: iucode-tool Version: 2.3.1-1~bpo9+1 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages
> > > Package: xtoolwait Version: 1.3-6.2 File: /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > > Package: youtube-dl Version: 2018.09.10-1 File: /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > > 
> > > > I never mentioned jessie, not sure what the reference is about?
> > > 
> > > Jessie is just a shorthand for "older versions of firefox" which is
> > > what I'm comparing with FF on stretch. I've been running FF since at
> > > least etch, and perhaps sarge and woody (I'm not sure what the package
> > > mozilla-browser actually ran), woody being the last Debian where I ran
> > > opera. I don't remember all the FF versions I have run, but they'll
> > > all be listed in the mainline Debian distributions of the time.
> > > 
> > > There seems to have been a lot of criticism here of stretch, not just
> > > per se (which is to be expected as it's the current version) but in
> > > comparison with previous releases, and that's doesn't match my experience.
> > > If anything, vanilla stretch has been better for me than recent releases.
> > > 
> > > > My point 
> > > > was that is ff needs extensions to be "secure" or reliable, and if the 
> > > > only place to get them is from outside the debian repo, then logically, 
> > > > the pkg belongs in "contrib" or plain kicked out of the repo.
> > > 
> > > It would surely be more to the point for you to indicate what it is
> > > you think I'm missing. I can tell you that Themes is default and
> > > Languages is English(GB). That's it. I don't count my doctored
> > > /etc/hosts as an add-on because it's not a software component.
> > 
> > Bless your heart for going to all that trouble.
> 
> Trouble? It's just two lines of shell, using apt-cache, dpkg-query,
> grep, sed and sort; the kind of thing any sysadmin could rustle up in
> a couple of minutes, and then stick in a bash function (as I did,
> many moons ago).
> 
> > I sure didn't need to 
> > see all your firmware, dear.  You remind me of my elderly Aunt who always 
> > responds to every question with a 30 min story about feeding ducks.
> > 
> > L8r.
> 
> Firmware is just what happens to dominate the list which was generated
> automatically (as mentioned above). I've installed one package of user
> software from non-free, and its appearance there seems to be caused by
> some details of its licence. I've installed one ancient (squeeze)
> package, xtoolwait, and one more up-to-date (buster) version of the
> youtube-dl package, without which I've found it impossible to download
> a good proportion of internet videos.
> 
> I posted the list to demonstrate that I'm not being economical with
> the truth about having no non-free/contrib packages supporting FF.
> Thus there's no reason to move FF out of the "main" distribution.
> 
> However, the rude attitude you show here is indicative of problems
> stretching far beyond technical discussions of Debian.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> 

Was there anything about feeding ducks?  please quote the relevant part, 
dear.

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