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Re: Upgrading with a low data cap

From	Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Upgrading with a low data cap
Date	2018-10-08 21:30 +0200
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On 10/08/2018 10:56 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 08 Oct 2018 at 06:35:19 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> I was under the impression that your networking consisted of
>>> point-to-point links via machines' USB ports.
>>
>> That effort is on hold [almost abandoned]. It's goal was primarily
>> educational not something for routine use.
> 
> Fair enough. You still don't say whether you're running a conventional
> LAN nowadays.

I have no LAN.

> 
>>> Can you simultaneously
>>> connect the machine being installed to both the internet and the
>>> system running apt-cache-ng (and using http:)?
>>
>> I haven't yet read the documentation for apt-cache-ng and don't know
>> if it would match my mental image.
> 
> You might think of a triangle with router and two computers at the
> vertices. Each device needs an internet connection to the others
> simultaneously during installation for apt-cache-ng to work.
> (Typically the two computers will communicate through the router
> rather than directly, but you don't have to think about that because
> routers just know how to do it.)
> 

OK that won't work as I have no LAN.

>> I was assuming that that all the
>> packages that I downloaded/upgraded were still in a cache which could
>> be transferred to the target machine via a flash drive. The machines
>> are adjacent.
> 
> Yes, that's the simpler method that I outlined in my first post.
> That's the one that mentions /target, which is a fact that needs to
> be discovered and isn't well documented, hence my post.
> (Most people installing Debian will never need to be made aware of
> the existence of /target.)

OK

> 
>> My current priority is verifying my Buster system is
>> properly setup.
> 
> That may well be, but the sooner you deploy some method of reusing
> packages, the more you avoid exceeding your cap.

I've a low cap. But I use even less and have built up a cushion.
If I have enough built up, I'll correct my BUSTER problems now. 
Otherwise I can wait for the actual release and spend my time studying 
how to use a cache.

Something just brought to mind apt-offline. The introductory paragraph 
in the man page states:
> apt-offline brings offline package management functionality to Debian > based system. It can be used to download packages and its dependencies
> to be installed later on (or required to update) a disconnected machine.
> Packages can be downloaded from a different connected machine. 

Don't know how suitable it would be FOR ME. However studying its use may 
prompt questions &/or answers I haven't thought about.


> That's why the
> simplest method may be the best to start with. I'd been using it
> (originally with Iomega Zip and Jaz drives) a decade before I had
> any sort of Internet service at home, and before apt-cache-ng was
> released (3 months later).
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> 
>

Thread

Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-07 15:40 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-07 16:00 +0200
    Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-07 16:10 +0200
      Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 03:30 +0200
        Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-08 13:40 +0200
          Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-08 14:10 +0200
            Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-08 14:40 +0200
              Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-08 17:10 +0200
          Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-10-08 14:50 +0200
          Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 18:00 +0200
            Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-08 21:30 +0200
              Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 21:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-08 22:40 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 22:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-09 10:50 +0200
              Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 21:50 +0200
              Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 01:30 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-09 03:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 04:40 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-09 16:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-09 12:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-09 17:00 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-09 17:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-09 18:20 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-09 18:30 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-09 22:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-10-10 10:00 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-14 14:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 11:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-15 14:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-15 16:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-15 17:00 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-15 17:00 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-17 16:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-10-17 17:20 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-17 17:20 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 16:00 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-10 17:00 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-10-10 17:20 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-10 17:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-09 21:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-09 22:00 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-09 22:20 +0200
              Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Alexandre Rossi <alexandre.rossi@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 15:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-14 14:30 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-07 16:00 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-07 16:40 +0200
    Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 20:20 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 17:00 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-10-07 22:00 +0200
    Re: Upgrading with a low data cap mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 11:40 +0200
      Re: Upgrading with a low data cap songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-10-08 13:20 +0200
        Re: Upgrading with a low data cap mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 13:50 +0200
          Re: Upgrading with a low data cap songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-10-11 00:00 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 03:10 +0200
    Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 08:00 +0200
      Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 17:30 +0200
        Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2018-10-10 11:20 +0200
    Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-08 13:50 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-10-08 05:40 +0200
  Re: Upgrading with a low data cap Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-10-08 10:10 +0200
    Re: Upgrading with a low data cap David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-10-08 17:10 +0200

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