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Underlying problems - was [Re: Permission issues - operator error?]

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On 09/22/2018 08:34 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm assuming operator problem as I get same symptoms on:
>     two laptops each running different Debian releases (6.8, 9.1).
>       [both using MATE desktop]
>     two different media (32Gb USB flash, 240 Gb USB SSD).
> 
> Logged in as 'richard' I use Gparted (providing root password) to 
> repartition the drive. As I'm diagnosing problems I do a power off/on 
> cycle to force a cold boot.
> 
> After login in as either 'richard' or 'root' permissions are displayed 
> as "could not be determined".

The MATE tools do not act as I expected.
I followed the directions elsewhere in this thread concluding with
>  mkfs.ext4 -E root_owner=1000:1000 -L 2018Sept23tst1 /dev/sdb1

When I allow to auto-magically mount it and then double-click its icon 
Caja displays an empty directory [as expected].
Clicking on the 'up arrow' [Open parent folder] an entity titled 
"2018Sept23tst1" is displayed. Right-clicking on the title followed by 
choosing Properties->Permissions shows it is owned by 'richard' of group 
'richard' [as intended].

*HOWEVER* right-clicking on the desktop icon titled "2018Sept23tst1" 
followed by choosing Properties->Permissions states that:
> Permissions of "2018Sept23tst1" could not be determined. 

*UNEXPECTED* result.

> 
> As 'root' I copy a directory from a random partition of the hard drive.
> Permissions for the directory and its contents are displayed as 'root'.
> I change the folder ownership to 'richard' clicking on apply permissions 
> to enclosed files.
> 
> They enclosed directories and files are still owned by 'root' :<

I'll have to do more work to document. But I have higher priority problems.

Thanks to all.



> 
> Ideas?
> With >50 years test/troubleshooting in various fields, do I have a blind 
> spot?
> (P.S. I've even written test procedures - interesting experience ;)
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> 

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Permission issues - operator error? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-22 15:40 +0200
  Re: Permission issues - operator error? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-22 16:00 +0200
    Re: Permission issues - operator error? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-22 16:30 +0200
      Re: Permission issues - operator error? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-09-22 22:50 +0200
        Re: Permission issues - operator error? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-23 02:40 +0200
          Re: Permission issues - operator error? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-09-23 05:00 +0200
            Re: Permission issues - operator error? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-23 11:30 +0200
              Re: Permission issues - operator error? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-23 15:30 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2018-09-23 15:50 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-23 16:20 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2018-09-23 17:40 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-23 20:20 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-09-23 20:40 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-09-23 20:40 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-09-24 03:40 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2018-09-23 21:10 +0200
                Re: Permission issues - operator error? Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-09-24 05:10 +0200
  Underlying problems - was [Re: Permission issues - operator error?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-24 18:40 +0200

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