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Re: USB Host-Host cables

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On Sun 17 Jun 2018 at 20:22:22 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/17/2018 05:04 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >>That's your perspective (as someone who's stated that you have no experience
> >>at this). From the perspective of the people who tried to help you, you've
> >>chosen an obscure solution rather than a well-tested and well-documented
> >>solution for no apparent reason. (ROFL?) From the perspective of someone
> >>trying to learn something, you've chosen to learn an obscure special-purpose
> >>implementation rather than something that's fairly universal. (chuckle?)
> >
> >Actually, IIUC the cable he got is basically two Ethernet-to-USB
> >adapters connected together via an ethernet cable, all neatly packaged
> >as a single physical object.  So except for the fact that he can't use
> >any of the ethernet-to-USB adapters for some other purpose, he did get
> >what "we" recommended and is universal.
> >
> 
> *ROFL* * 1024^gazillion ;/
> 
> I have what is essentially a "USB->Serial" - "Serial->USB" Cable.
> Ethernet is *NOT* involved - though there are topological similarities.
> Multiple people keep telling me that I should use THIS/THAT/OTHER
> solution inspite of *FACT* I have found them unsatisfactory!
> 
> There is a MAJOR side benefit.
> As I am not using a canned solution, I am learning much about what
> happens in the background.
> 
> If THEY want canned one-size-fits-all 'solutions', move to windoze!
> 
> Get idea I'm frustrated?
> I ask "How to bake a cake?"
> I'm told "Go drive a Ford."
[snipped duplicate lines]
> I find it offensive!
> 
> [I'm given a plethora of solutions to 'problems' I DON'T have ... ]
> [ *NOT* solutions to problems I *DO HAVE* ! ]
> 
> In the future please answer the questions I *DO* ask, NOT what you
> wished I asked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> End of RANT

You asked us to read and chuckle at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/05/msg01073.html

When I did, I read that you wanted *simple* communications between the
two computers, yet you insist on using their USB ports, which makes a
solution anthing but simple, even if you hide it by insisting on an
expensive, single-use cable: you've just bundled the complexity into
the cable hardware.

OTOH it would be far less complex to connect the computers' ethernet
ports with a length of CAT5 cable for next to no price. If the port is
broken (and it sounds as if you think it might be, but probably just
because you've never tried it) then a dongle would make sense. Either
way, communication would be conventional and simple, and you'd have a
transferrable skill just like the mid-20th century person who was
using RS232.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/06/msg00395.html

As for secure solutions, trying to avoid security will merely cut
you off from conventional networking tools where it's seen as
essential nowadays. (Try typing  man rcp  or  man rlogin.)

Cheers,
David.

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USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-13 13:40 +0200
  Re: USB Host-Host cables Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-06-13 17:00 +0200
    Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-13 22:00 +0200
      Re: USB Host-Host cables Ulf Volmer <u.volmer@u-v.de> - 2018-06-13 23:10 +0200
      Re: USB Host-Host cables Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-06-14 16:00 +0200
        Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-15 12:40 +0200
          Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-15 14:20 +0200
            Re: USB Host-Host cables Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-06-15 21:10 +0200
          Re: USB Host-Host cables Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-06-15 16:10 +0200
            Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-16 13:40 +0200
              Re: USB Host-Host cables Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-06-17 20:20 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-06-18 00:10 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-18 03:30 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-06-19 02:40 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-06-19 05:30 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-19 13:50 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 13:50 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-06-19 14:10 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 15:20 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-06-19 16:50 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 03:50 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-06-19 14:50 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 15:20 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-06-21 04:00 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-06-21 05:20 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-06-21 10:40 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-06-21 17:50 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2018-06-21 17:50 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-06-21 23:40 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-21 07:30 +0200
                Re: USB Host-Host cables Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-06-18 14:50 +0200
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