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Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met

From olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met
Date 2025-05-12 21:01 -0500
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On 5/12/2025 8:45 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 5/12/2025 9:06 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/12/2025 8:00 PM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2025 8:56 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 5/12/2025 7:36 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>> On 5/12/2025 8:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/12/2025 7:27 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/12/2025 8:25 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2025 7:12 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2025 7:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Simulating Termination analyzers cannot possibly report
>>>>>>>>>> on the actual behavior of non-terminating inputs
>>>>>>>>>> because this would cause themselves to never terminate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They must always hypothesize what the behavior of the
>>>>>>>>>> input would be if they themselves never aborted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> False.  They must always hypothesize what the behavior of 
>>>>>>>>> algorithm described by the input would be if it was executed 
>>>>>>>>> directly, as per the requirements:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Show the actual reasoning of how it makes sense
>>>>>>>> that a simulating termination analyzer should
>>>>>>>> ignore the behavior (to its own peril) that the
>>>>>>>> input actually specifies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no requirement that building a termination analyzer, 
>>>>>>> simulating or otherwise, is possible.  In fact, it has proved to 
>>>>>>> not be possible by Linz and others, which you have *explicitly* 
>>>>>>> agreed with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words you have no such actual reasoning.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reasoning is that there is no requirement that building a 
>>>>> termination analyzer is possible. 
>>>>
>>>> So you have no actual reasoning that addresses my
>>>> actual point.
>>>>
>>>>  >>>> Show the actual reasoning of how it makes sense
>>>>  >>>> that a simulating termination analyzer should
>>>>  >>>> ignore the behavior (to its own peril) that the
>>>>  >>>> input actually specifies.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It makes sense because that's what's required to tell me if any 
>>> arbitrary algorithm X with input Y will halt when executed directly.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly what actual reasoning shows that this
>> is superior to reporting on the behavior that
>> its input actual specifies?
> 
> I'll let you respond to yourself:
> 
> On 7/30/2024 10:21 AM, olcott wrote:
>  > *Its all in the part that you erased*
> 
> On 11/12/2024 12:21 PM, olcott wrote:
>  > *IT WAS DISHONEST THAT YOU ERASED THIS PART*
> 
> Which I have restored below:
> 
>>
>>> It would be *very* useful to me if I had an algorithm H that could 
>>> tell me that in *all* possible cases.  If so, I could solve the 
>>> Goldbach conjecture and make unknownable truths knowable, among many 
>>> other unsolved problems.
>>>
> 
> And so I'll ask a second time:
> 
>>> Does an algorithm H exist that can tell me that or not?
> 

If the Goldbach conjecture is true (and there is
no short-cut) this requires testing against every
element of the set of natural numbers an infinite
computation.

*That had nothing to do with this point*

 >> Exactly what actual reasoning shows that this
 >> is superior to reporting on the behavior that
 >> its input actual specifies?


-- 
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:17 -0500
  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 14:20 -0400
    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:27 -0500
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 15:53 -0400
        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 15:17 -0500
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 16:29 -0400
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 16:12 -0500
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 17:39 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 16:46 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 17:54 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 17:28 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 18:30 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 17:41 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 19:24 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 18:36 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 19:40 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 18:53 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 20:12 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 19:25 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 20:27 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 19:34 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 20:36 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 19:56 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:00 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 20:06 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:15 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:45 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:01 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 22:22 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:25 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 06:11 +0100
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 00:22 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-13 08:44 +0000
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 10:02 +0100
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 07:15 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:28 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-13 09:09 +0000
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:46 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 22:58 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 22:22 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 23:31 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 00:14 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:43 +0200
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 07:23 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:02 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Complete Closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 00:03 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Complete Closure "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:38 +0200
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Complete Closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 07:33 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:54 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-13 09:18 +0000
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-13 13:43 +0300
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 21:30 -0400
    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:47 -0500
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:50 -0400
        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:28 -0500
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-14 13:24 +0200
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:40 -0500
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-15 13:13 +0200
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:00 -0400
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:55 -0500
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:54 -0400
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 21:47 -0400
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-15 10:44 +0300
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 22:10 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-16 12:05 +0300
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-16 10:02 -0400
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 08:26 -0400
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:16 -0500
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:46 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 15:52 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:22 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:53 -0500
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                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:28 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 20:34 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-15 10:51 +0300
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 22:17 -0500
    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:26 -0500
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:01 -0400
        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:54 -0500
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      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 08:25 -0400
  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 21:27 -0400
    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:53 -0500
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:05 -0400
        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 23:52 -0500
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:33 +0200
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 19:41 -0500
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:03 -0400
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 07:43 -0400
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                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 16:52 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 18:35 -0400
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                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:04 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-15 13:10 +0200
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 18:33 -0400
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                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:27 -0500
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                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-15 12:52 +0200
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                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 17:39 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-16 20:38 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 19:49 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-16 22:50 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 22:08 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-17 11:03 +0200
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Dishonest reviewers olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 13:45 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Dishonest reviewers Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 16:01 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Dishonest reviewers Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-18 12:24 +0300
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Dishonest reviewers "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-18 12:15 +0200
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 09:08 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 10:36 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 15:51 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike's key mistake Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-18 12:35 +0300
                Mike's big mistake about DD simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 21:39 -0500
                Re: Mike's big mistake about DD simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-16 22:03 +0200
                Re: Mike's big mistake about DD simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 16:10 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-16 12:26 +0300
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 09:47 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-17 11:55 +0300
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-17 15:27 +0100
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 11:09 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 10:31 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 15:54 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 15:05 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 16:10 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 15:18 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 16:34 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 15:16 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 16:31 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 16:00 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-17 19:35 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-17 23:56 +0000
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 19:05 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-18 12:26 +0200
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-18 07:15 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-18 07:14 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 19:00 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-18 12:22 +0200
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-18 07:20 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:15 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-14 14:32 +0000
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:11 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- WDH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-15 12:47 +0200
  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 08:54 -0500
    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:22 -0400
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:44 -0500
        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:50 -0400
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 15:57 -0500
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:23 -0400
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:54 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 18:00 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:37 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 20:36 -0400
          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 22:32 +0100
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:10 -0500
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 23:17 +0100
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:25 -0500
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 20:34 -0400
  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:42 -0500
    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-14 13:19 +0200
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:48 -0500
        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-15 13:15 +0200
    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:27 -0400
      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:37 -0500
        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-15 12:41 +0200

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