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| From | David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10, uk.telecom.mobile, comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: OT: spam phone calls |
| Date | 2025-05-07 20:39 +0100 |
| Organization | No affiliation |
| Message-ID | <vvgcub$16vp3$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <vrh0k4$36vfn$1@dont-email.me> <8kjtalxutn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <861purzq0d.fsf@example.com> <vvfq7l$12ccc$1@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 07/05/2025 15:20, Jason H wrote: > And not easy to enforce. I don't think there's anything in place > (software/infrastructure) to spot a fake number from real. It's the > bleeding obvious plague that no one saw coming -\O/-. Yes there is, although it does have a third category for, basically, number from abroad, whose status is unknown. It has been introduced fro all VoIP in the USA. Providers have to sign information that indicates whether caller ID is the true caller ID, or another caller ID from someone they have positively identified. (A and B attestations; C is the third case above.) I haven't gone into the details of how the true identity is tracked, but, if it isn't included in the VoIP headers, I assume that the provider must log it and provide it to the authorities. Search STIR/SHAKEN for more information. Unfortunately this has been cross-posted to world as well as UK groups, and I suspect you are in the UK. Also the real problem is associated with VoIP, and it hasn't been posted to a VoIP group. I believe that the UK didn't want to use the extension to the traditional PSTN, and is awaiting analogue switch off, before fully implementing the same, or similar. I believe many US legacy network users see a "V" in the caller ID, if it is a true caller ID of the caller. I believe there are mechanisms for passing on authentication when an call is forwarded, but it's something I've researched in depth, only noting that complying has tripped up many US VoIP using organisations, who used to like forwarding original caller ID to outworkers.
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Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-02 14:40 +0000
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Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:18 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:04 +0000
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Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:18 +0000
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Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:13 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:53 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 12:10 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-22 17:06 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 13:24 -0400
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Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:30 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-05-01 18:06 +0000
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Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 09:04 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:01 +0000
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Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-29 15:03 +0100
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Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:58 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-30 10:13 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:07 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-30 15:36 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:50 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:39 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:23 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:09 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:02 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:30 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:44 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 11:57 +0200
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Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:10 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:55 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-03-20 14:21 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-31 20:35 +1100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 12:23 +0000
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