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Re: Firefox bad design decisions?

From Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.firefox
Subject Re: Firefox bad design decisions?
Date 2025-04-30 02:24 -0400
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 01:00:45 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

> Depends on whether the user wants a flat context menu that keeps getting
> longer and longer until eventually part of the context menu is offscreen
> and unusable for that portion.  Or the user wants cascading entries
> (menus) in the context menu.

When almost every web browser has it in two steps while Firefox was the
only browsers I could find that made it three steps, the choice is clear.

> I've used many programs that add shell extensions to File Explorer, and
> they add their entries at the root level of the context menu. 

That's kind of what I'm hoping to find. Something that makes Firefox close
all but the one tab in less than three steps, given you do it a lot.

> No matter which schema you prefer - flat or hierarchical - someone else
> won't like it.  If everyone did it the same way, there would be only one
> web browser.

I'm fine if it would be user customizable given all other web browsers I
had tested do in two steps what Firefox takes three steps to do it.

>> Is there any way to get Firefox to be more user friendly?
> 
> You're asking if there is an option to flatten all menues in Firefox.

Not to flatten all menus. Just to expose the "close all other tabs" menu.

> Probably, and very likely, not.  That's at the chrome (small "c") level
> when coding the program.  Even the programmers for all those other web
> browsers were also making their own choice, not yours.

I'm assuming the reason all browsers except Firefox close the tabs in fewer
steps than Firefox does is because it's something that you do a lot.

> You could voice your opinion to the developers by opening ticket at
> bugzilla.mozilla.org.  However, you'll probably have to come up with
> documentation on how they should modify their chrome for all menuing,
> not just the one example you cited, and how to present the option to
> modify the menus, or select from pre-defined themes of menuing.
> 
> Vivaldi is a highly customizable web browser, but I don't know if it
> lets you modify the menues how you want.  I did find:
> https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/appearance-customization/customize-application-and-context-menus/

Vivaldi already does it the same way all browsers but Firefox do it.

Do you think there's a Firefox extension for "user friendly menus"?

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Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-04-30 00:54 -0400
  Re: Firefox bad design decisions? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-30 01:00 -0500
    Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-04-30 02:24 -0400
      Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-04-30 07:53 +0100
        Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-04-30 08:18 -0700
        Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-01 02:24 -0400
          Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2025-05-01 09:25 +0200
            Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-01 04:39 -0400
          Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-01 12:35 +0100
            Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-01 11:47 -0400
          Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:31 +0000
            Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-01 14:48 -0400
              Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-02 17:26 +0000
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-03 04:38 -0400
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:02 +0000
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-04 02:28 -0400
          Re: Firefox bad design decisions? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 14:13 -0500
            Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-02 03:26 -0400
              Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-02 08:30 +0100
              Re: Firefox bad design decisions? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 05:16 -0500
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 05:18 -0500
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-03 04:38 -0400
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-03 13:05 -0500
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-04 03:46 -0400
                Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-03 04:38 -0400
      Re: Firefox bad design decisions? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-30 04:45 -0500
      Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-04-30 21:11 +1000
  Re: Firefox bad design decisions? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:48 -0700
  Re: Firefox bad design decisions? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-04-30 16:15 +0000
  Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-30 10:18 -0700
  Re: Firefox bad design decisions? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-30 20:00 +0000
    Re: Firefox bad design decisions? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-04-30 21:26 +0000
      Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-01 02:36 -0400
        Re: Firefox bad design decisions? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:12 +0000
        Re: Firefox bad design decisions? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 13:49 -0500
  Re: Firefox “bad” design decisions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 00:04 +0000
    Re: Firefox “bad” design decisions? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-05-01 02:39 -0400
      Re: Firefox “bad” design decisions? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-05-01 09:52 +0200

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