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| From | slothe <slothe@netcom.com> |
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| Newsgroups | can.politics, comp.os.linux.advocacy, or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns, seattle.politics |
| Subject | Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court |
| Date | 2025-04-25 17:21 +0000 |
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On 25 Apr 2025, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> posted some news:qiOOP.2639593$OrR5.2009332@fx18.iad: > On 4/25/25 02:26, 51st State wrote: >> The Court of Appeal says OHIP must cover surgery for a resident >> seeking to have a vagina constructed while leaving penis intact >> >> Ontario's top court has ruled the province must cover the cost of an >> out- of-country, penis-sparing vaginoplasty for a 'transgender and >> non-binary resident'ť who wishes to have both female and male >> genitalia. >> >> In a unanimous decision released this week, a three-judge panel of >> the Ontario Court of Appeal confirmed a lower court's ruling ordering >> the Ontario Health Insurance Plan to pay for the patient, identified >> as K.S. in court records, to undergo the novel phallus-sparing >> surgery at a Texas clinic. >> >> The latest ruling is the third unanimous decision in K.S.'s favour. >> >> 'K.S. is pleased with the Court of Appeal's decision, which is now >> the third unanimous ruling confirming that her gender affirming >> surgery is covered under Ontario's Health Insurance Act and its >> regulation,' K.S.'s lawyer, John McIntyre, said in an email to >> National Post. >> >> The legal battle between K.S., whose sex at birth was male, dates to >> 2022, when the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) refused a funding >> request for surgery to construct a vagina while sparing the penis, a >> procedure this is not available in Ontario, or anywhere else in >> Canada. >> >> OHIP argued that, because the vaginoplasty would not be accompanied >> by a penectomy, the procedure isn't one specifically listed in OHIP's >> Schedule of Benefits and therefore shouldn't be publicly funded. OHIP >> also argued that the requested surgery is considered experimental in >> Ontario and, thus, also ineligible for coverage. >> >> K.S. appealed to the Health Services Appeal and Review Board, which >> overturned OHIP's refusal, arguing that 'vaginoplasty' should be >> covered, whether a penectomy, a separate procedure included on the >> list of publicly funded sex-reassignment surgeries, is performed or >> not. >> >> OHIP appealed that decision to the Divisional Court but lost again >> after the panel dismissed the province's appeal and declared the >> surgery, which leaves intact a functioning penis, an insured service. >> >> The province's latest appeal was heard on Nov. 26. The three-judge >> appeal court panel rejected OHIP's arguments that the proposed >> surgery isn't an insured service because it won't be accompanied by >> removal of the penis ' a penectomy 'neither recommended by K.S.'s >> health professionals nor desired by K.S.,' according to the court's >> written decision. >> > Simply amazing! > I want it all! > I want it both ways! > And I want all of you to pay for it! > ---------- Court - OK, sounds fine to us. That's ridiculous. >> K.S., who is in her early 30s, 'has experienced significant gender >> dysphoria since her teenage years, as well as physical, mental and >> economic hardships to transition her gender expression to align with >> her gender identity,' the court said. >> >> K.S.'s doctor submitted a request to OHIP for prior funding approval >> for the surgical creation of a vaginal cavity and external vulva. The >> request made it clear that K.S. wasn't seeking a penectomy. >> >> In a letter accompanying the request, her doctor said that because >> K.S. is 'not completely on the 'feminine' end of the spectrum' it was >> important for her to have a vagina while maintaining her penis, >> adding that the Crane Center for Transgender Surgery in Austin, >> Tx.,'has an excellent reputation' for gender-affirming surgery, 'and >> especially with these more complicated procedures.' Doctors who encourage this kind of silliness have crossed the line. They are abusing the mentally ill. >> The appeal court ruled that the divisional court did not err in >> holding that the requested vaginoplasty is listed in the Schedule of >> Benefits, with or without an accompanying penectomy. >> >> 'The existence of different techniques to perform a vaginoplasty does >> not affect this conclusion,' the appeal court's written decision >> reads. 'It was open to the drafters of the Schedule of Benefits to >> describe each specifically listed service in broad or narrow terms. >> >> 'Here the description chosen, vaginoplasty,' is broad enough to >> encompass different techniques,' the court said. >> >> 'As the (Health Services Appeal and Review) Board put it, a >> vaginoplasty without a penectomy is an insured service because it is >> still a vaginoplasty, a specifically listed service.' >> >> The World Professional Association for Transgender Health's standards >> of care, the appeal court added, also 'expressly refers to 'penile >> preserving vaginoplasty' as a surgical option for some non-binary >> people and also note that vaginoplasty 'may include retention of >> penis and/or testicle.'' >> >> Ontario has until June 23, 2025, to seek leave to the Supreme Court >> of Canada. >> >> 'As this matter is within the appeal period, it would be >> inappropriate to comment further,h said a spokesperson for Ontario's >> Ministry of the Attorney General. >> >> In dismissing OHIP's appeal, the court ordered Ontario to pay K.S. >> $23,250 in costs. >> >> Gender-affirming surgeries at the Texas clinic range from US$10,000 >> to $70,000, depending on the procedures performed. >> >> https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ohip-coverage-penis-sparing- >> vaginoplasty >> > >
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Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court 51st State <beyond@hope.com> - 2025-04-25 11:26 +0200
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-25 08:58 -0700
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court slothe <slothe@netcom.com> - 2025-04-25 17:21 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 13:44 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-04-25 19:34 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court "P. Coonan" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-26 18:03 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 15:21 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-26 19:53 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 16:06 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-26 20:14 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Tyler Coop <tcoop@uraniumone.com> - 2025-04-26 20:24 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-27 01:25 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@kone.net> - 2025-04-27 03:54 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-27 12:00 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Tyler Coop <tcoop@uraniumone.com> - 2025-04-28 03:11 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 16:38 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-27 01:25 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 07:40 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-27 12:01 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@kone.net> - 2025-04-27 09:51 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 14:53 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@kone.net> - 2025-04-27 16:04 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 16:08 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-27 23:29 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@kone.net> - 2025-04-28 12:33 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 10:31 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@kone.net> - 2025-04-29 13:02 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 13:21 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@kone.net> - 2025-04-29 14:12 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 15:06 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-27 23:29 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@kone.net> - 2025-04-28 12:34 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Tyler Coop <tcoop@uraniumone.com> - 2025-04-26 20:17 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-27 01:24 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Tyler Coop <tcoop@uraniumone.com> - 2025-04-28 03:03 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 23:10 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Tyler Coop <tcoop@uraniumone.com> - 2025-04-28 03:18 +0000
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 23:57 -0400
Re: Ontario must pay for surgery to give trans resident both penis and vagina: appeal court doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-04-28 05:19 +0000
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