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Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend

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On 2025-04-12 22:24, Marion wrote:
> Oh oh... there's another problem in iOS we didn't hit with photos.
> 
> You hit a *new* problem when you try to access a different file type.
> In this case, the file type is an audio file.
> 
>   *LocalSend can't (directly) access that audio file on the iOS device!*
> 
> Here was what I needed to do:
> A. I made an audio recording on iOS of a phone call (with permission).
> B. I needed to transfer the 2-hour recording from iOS to Windows.
> C. On Windows, I needed to reduce the file size to fit into WhatsApp.
> D. Then I needed to transfer to Android to send over WhatsApp's dialer.
> 
> The problem is iOS prevents something that simple from ever being easy.
> 
> In summary, I want to transfer a specific 2-hour audio recording ("New
> Recording 4") from the iOS native "Voice Memos" app to my Windows 10
> machine using only my local network & without using the Internet so that I
> can shrink it to below 64MB in order to send it via Android WhatsApp.
> 
> The key challenge is accessing the audio file which is ensconced deeply
> within the sand boxed environment of the native Voice Memos app on iOS.
> 
> Unfortunately, iOS, by design, heavily restricts direct file system access
> for user applications like Voice Memos. This means that LocalSend, or any
> other app, typically cannot directly browse the internal storage of another
> app to pick out a specific file like the audio recording "New Recording 4".
> 
> Here's the workaround I had to come up with to accomplish that simple task
> of LocalSend being able to access the sandboxed Voice Memo audio file.
> 
> 1. Make sure the Windows PC & iOS device are on the same local network.
> 2. Open the LocalSend app on the iPad & the LocalSend program on the PC.
> 3. Make sure they see each other inside of the respective LocalSend GUIs.
> 4. Open the native iOS Voice Memos app on your iPad.
> 5. Find the recording titled "New Recording 4" within the app.
> 6. Tap on the recording to select it.
> 7. Tap on the "Share" icon.
> 8. In the Share Sheet tap about until you finally see "Save to Files".
> 9. Tap "Save to Files".
> 10. Choose a location within the "Files" app such as "On My iPad".
> 11. Then press at the top right the "Save" button to save it there.
> 12. Double check it worked by opening the iOS Files app to see it there.
> 13. When you tap on it, you'll see it's named "New Recording 4.m4a" 69.7MB.
> 14. On the iOS LocalSend left pane, tap the "Send" option.
> 15. You'd think an audio file would be under "Media" but Apple doesn't.
> 16. In the main pane, below "Selection," tap on "File".
> 17. This should open the iOS file browser interface.
> 18. Look for and tap on "On My iPad" within this file browser interface.
> 19. Tap on "New Recording 4.m4a" to select it (you may need to tap twice).
> 20. You will see a blue check mark inserted on the selected file.
> 21. In the top right of the iOS file browser, tap the "Open" button.
> 22. LocalSend transitions to a screen displaying discovered devices.
> 23. Tap on the name of your Windows 10 PC in the list of recipients.
> 24. The Windows LocalSend will say "iPad wants to send you a file".
> 25. Tap "Accept" on the Windows LocalSend GUI to receive that file.
> 26. The default will be "C:\Users\you\Downloads\New Recording 4.m4a".
> 27. The Windows LocalSend GUI will say "Finished".
> 28. Windows MPC-BE should play the Apple m4a file.
> 
> Voila! I successfully transferred a file out of the restrictive iOS
> filespace to Windows. I then easily copied it over USB to the Android
> sdcard to send via WhatsApp but WhatsApp has a 64MB file size limit.
> 
> So I had to lower the bitrate to shrink the file to send via WhatsApp.
>   C:\> ffmpeg -i input.m4a -vn -acodec aac -q:a 0.5 output_aac_q0.5.m4a
> 
> That shrunk the 68MB 2-hour audio file down to about 40MB for WhatsApp.
> 
> Unfortunately that didn't change the metadata, so WhatsApp found the 40MB
> file but it thought it was the same name as the original 68MB file.
> 
> So what I should have run is something like this to change metadata.
>   C:\> ffmpeg -i input.m4a -vn -acodec aac -q:a 0.5 -metadata title="Our Convo" -metadata filename="our_convo.m4a" output_metadata.m4a
> Or use MP3Tag on Windows:
>   <https://www.mp3tag.de/en/>

Or just use the built-in SMB functionality of Windows and iOS.

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Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 09:19 +0000
  Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-04-07 10:43 +0100
    Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 10:29 +0000
      Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 11:20 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-07 13:29 +0100
          Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 12:57 +0000
            Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-07 14:49 -0400
              Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 21:25 +0000
          Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Kash Patel <kash.patel@fbi.gov> - 2025-04-07 13:30 +0000
          Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-04-07 20:18 +0000
  Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-04-08 16:46 +0100
    Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 21:24 +0000
  Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-13 05:24 +0000
    Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 23:15 -0700
      Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend david <this@is.invalid> - 2025-04-13 01:00 -0600
        Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 07:19 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 00:43 -0700
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      Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 17:21 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 10:34 -0700
        Re: Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 16:11 -0700

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