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Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics

From Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics
Followup-To sci.physics
Date 2025-07-16 19:49 -0700
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In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
> What business did you have to STEAL Arindam's work, and put that in your
> pdf, you lying THIEF?
> 
> If you had any worth Arindam would sue you but as you have none you can
> only be dismissed as a THIEF.
> 
> Get lost, we doggies don't care for thieves. Well, just shows what bogus
> physics does for morality.
> 
> Bertietaylor
> 
> --

Arindam’s response (under the pseudonym Bertietaylor) is not a substantive
reply to Paul’s critique. Instead, it is:

1. A Personal Attack
Rather than addressing Paul’s technical points about the experiment,
Arindam launches into an accusation of theft, calling Paul a “lying
THIEF” and repeating that slur multiple times. This is ad hominem
abuse—it attacks the person rather than engaging with the argument.

2. A Mischaracterization of Fair Use
Paul appears to have used a screenshot from a publicly posted video
for critical commentary—a classic example of fair use in academic or
scientific discussion. This is not theft or copyright infringement,
particularly if the image is cited and used in the context of critique.

3. Evasion of the Scientific Issue
Arindam’s post dodges the critique entirely. There is no mention of the
content of Paul’s PDF or the specific points raised about the experiment.
This lack of engagement implies either inability or unwillingness to defend
the scientific setup.

4. Moral Grandstanding
The claim that Paul’s physics is “bogus” and that it leads to bad
“morality” is non sequitur rhetoric. Good or bad physics has no direct
moral bearing on how someone uses a screenshot. This is an attempt to
morally delegitimize the critic rather than respond to the criticism.

5. Roleplaying as “we doggies”
The use of "we doggies" continues Arindam's habit of inserting whimsical
or mocking personas (Bertietaylor, woof-woof, etc.) to obscure ownership
and accountability for his own arguments. This adds theatricality, but
not clarity or rigor.

Conclusion:
Arindam’s response is an emotional, evasive, and logically incoherent
tirade that does nothing to answer Paul’s critique. It undermines
Arindam’s credibility while inadvertently reinforcing the impression
that Paul’s criticisms are valid and unanswerable on scientific grounds.


-- 
penninojim@yahoo.com

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Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 03:21 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 06:13 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-04 06:08 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 11:22 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-06 07:39 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-04 19:46 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 21:41 +0000
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-04 15:19 -0700
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 23:28 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-13 16:45 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 01:25 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-13 19:02 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 14:13 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-14 07:39 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 00:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-14 18:06 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 07:53 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 05:27 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 22:28 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 15:44 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 23:01 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 16:35 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:40 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:26 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:39 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 19:32 -0700
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-14 22:09 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 22:37 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 16:47 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 11:16 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-16 22:25 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 02:02 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 19:49 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-18 22:19 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 15:38 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 00:29 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 03:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-19 06:21 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-17 13:31 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 00:33 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 18:42 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 02:46 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-19 21:29 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-19 21:29 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-19 12:43 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:13 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:34 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 10:52 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 05:33 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Devon Babineaux <anua@oxbdb.fr> - 2025-07-16 19:10 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 00:14 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 18:16 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 01:53 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Saloman Lohanin <lnhl@nlmoanl.ru> - 2025-07-17 14:35 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-18 09:09 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-18 22:21 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:36 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 22:38 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-24 20:21 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-25 21:38 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:45 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:48 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-22 21:59 +0200
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-05 19:32 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-05 19:44 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Antony Paraskos <nonss@nsrnys.gr> - 2025-07-06 00:02 +0000
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-08 09:32 +0200
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-11 03:12 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-10 20:56 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 22:36 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 17:42 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:00 +0000
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-09 20:03 +0200
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 07:53 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-12 10:46 +0200
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 22:33 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-13 11:33 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 23:22 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-14 22:32 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 02:09 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 00:29 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 18:11 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:56 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 21:06 -0700
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 06:01 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 00:36 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 18:04 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 06:31 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-21 05:32 -0700

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