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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics |
| Subject | Re: Trumpcession |
| Date | 2025-04-04 00:02 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vsn7j7$1v84f$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 2025-04-03, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > On 4/1/25 22:16, pothead wrote: >> On 2025-04-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>> On 4/1/25 07:21, NoBody wrote: >>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:16:53 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>> Sherman) wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>> >>>>> | >>>>> | Policy uncertainty and new sweeping tariffs from the Trump >>>>> | administration are combining to create a stagflationary >>>>> | outlook for the U.S. economy in the latest CNBC Rapid >>>>> | Update. >>>>> | ... >>>>> <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/31/first-quarter-gdp-growth-will-be-just-0point3percent-as-tariffs-stoke-stagflation-conditions-says-cnbc-survey.html> >>>>> >>>>> | >>>>> | Uncertainty around how and when Congress will enact tax >>>>> | legislation, on top of Trump's ever-changing tariff >>>>> | announcements, is dragging down expectations for >>>>> | investment, surveys from across the country show. Many >>>>> | firms are putting their investment plans, a key driver of >>>>> | economic growth, on hold. That's one reason why economists >>>>> | are dialing back growth forecasts for this year. >>>>> | ... >>>>> <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-31/us-business-put-spending-plans-on-ice-with-tariffs-tax-cut-wait?srnd=homepage-americas> >>>>> >>>>> --bks >>>> >>>> Laughter. >>>> >>>> I warned you a year ago that Biden's inflation was going to cause a >>>> recession. They don't happen over night. This is that particular >>>> chicken coming home to roost. >>>> >>>> And you'll actually blame Trump for this. >>>> >>>> Sad. >>> >>> >>> Well, Goldman Sachs is blaming Trump for it. Their latest report hit >>> the news yesterday and they've put the recession risk update at 35%: >>> >>> <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/business/recession-tariffs-goldman-sachs/index.html> >>> >>> And for "But Blame Biden!" attempts, the problem with this claim is >>> Goldman Sach's last report has changed since the election. Their last >>> assessment prior to the election was in Oct 2024 and it said a 15% risk: >>> >>> Headline (8 Oct 24) >>> <https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/the-probability-of-a-us-recession-in-the-next-year-has-fallen-to-15-percent> >>> >>> Full analysis (6 Oct 24): >>> <https://www.gspublishing.com/content/research/en/reports/2024/10/07/8ba0c80f-a90e-49f9-8c38-1276047e7533.html> >>> >>> >>> And now that 1Q is over so firms can go back to deviating from their >>> index fund percentages, the DJIA has just opened with a 200 points drop. >>> >>> >>> -hh >> >> Personally I don't trust any of the financial firms because they are wrong more >> often than not. > > > Their assessments have to be stochastic, not deterministic. As such, > its not if they are/aren't "correct", but if they're *useful*. Big words. I had to look them up :) > >> The economy, while rooted in SOME basic tenants is also highly voodoo as well to >> some degree. > > More variables and interactions than one can reasonably expect to gather > sufficient data to model with. Plus a lot of these variables are > "squishy" in that they're things like consumer sentiments. Back in the 80's when I was working on Wall Street I was in the computer command center on black Monday 10/19/1987 of one of the largest brokerage firms on the planet. I was watching the SAD displays (System Activity Display) of the various mainframe computers running the business and these were bar graphs that typically would go up and down. They were pegged full on and the high level executives were concerned that the computers would crash under the load. That was when I learned how trend analysis worked. So basically at the time, considering the technology, the mainframes would figure out for example, what stocks went up or down every time say GM stock went up or down. It was an eye opener for sure. > >> Back in the late 70's into the 80's brokers were moonlighting driving taxi cabs >> in NYC and the joke was well if you know so much about where the market is headed >> why aren't YOU rich? >> >> I'm mixed on Trump's tariffs TBH. > > I see them as a train wreck, which the Market today is also voting with > their dollars manifested as a stampede for the door: DJIA closed -1679 > (-4%) SP500 -274 (-4.8%) NASDAQ -1050 (-6%). I think it's going to take some time to sink in and stabilize. The markets sure are tanking, but why? The USA has been getting screwed on tariffs for years so it's about time we level the playing field. Is Trump's methodology the correct way, I'm not so sure. > >> However I am 1000000% in favor of bringing jobs, especially manufacturing jobs, >> back stateside. > > Agreed ... to a degree. There's pros/cons to any policy, so the broader > question is what are these pros/cons and where have the current policies > been delinquent. Because part of that these trades is that one only has > a finite labor pool to allocate, so is it better to have, say, 20% > working in low value-added & fungible goods vs alternatives, such as in > better paying Service industry jobs. It's all about profit and satisfying the stockholders and far less about control and not allowing the US to become vulnerable and dependent upon other countries for our goods. I am anti corporation and especially those linked tightly to overseas manufacturing. I will gladly pay an extra $100 for a TV made in the USA. I think most people feel the same. We have lost control and that is extremely dangerous. >> As for tariffs themselves, I would like to see fair trade. > > The problem is what is an effective definition for what is "fair"? > Because it can't be merely this formula based on trade balance, where > Trump is imposing tariffs on literally uninhabited islands (and also on > our own military base on Diego Garcia!), which only shows up because its > shown as the 'origin' for some lobsters caught there. Fair is no tariff at all. As for islands, these are sweeping regulations. Look up what tariffs other countries impose upon US goods. All Trump is saying is we need fair trade. Some countries are already asking for negations. Others are still fighting back. Time will tell. >> I doubt China will ever agree, but I'm sure we can work something out with >> other countries. >> Why should the US be screwed all the time? >> Level set the playing field is all I would like to see. > > My personal thoughts on it is that the manufacture of physical goods > should have had (for decades) a baseline that's pollution-based: make > goods in an environmentally dirty fashion is cheaper, so that becomes > the basis of a 'tariff'-esque handicap. However, this is limited to > just physical goods, not services. Personally I disagree. As long as reasonable guidelines are set, I don't give a hoot about green, over regulation that slows the process and costs the consumer. So yea, a factory shouldn't be allowed to pollute a river by dumping toxic chemicals from manufacturing into it. But at the same time, the type of windows, heating system, etc should not be over regulated. > >> Will Trump's tariffs upset the economy? >> Maybe. > > Market today showed that they're betting that it will be a huge upset. Just a point in time. The market goes up and it goes down. Time will tell. >> But what is the alternative? >> We simply cannot go on as things are. > > So long as revenues received from services exported still exceed > revenues out from material goods imported ... why can't it? After all, > that is still a next inflow of cash. We can increase those revenues by not being the world's piggy bank. Why can other nations impose huge tariffs on the US but we can't do the same? For example, India has a 100% tariff on US agricultural goods. Why is the left so opposed to fair trade? That is really the question here. Similar question for why is the left so opposed to eliminating government waste? >> What do you propose? > > Well, it starts with not using tariff exemptions as a means of > blackmail/extortion. It's simply a tool to negotiate fair trade. > It is also integral to our overall fiscal policies in how the government > should/shouldn't generate its operating revenue, specifically on the > question of how the policies are assessed to determine if they're > progressive vs regressive. Note that this isn't a question of if the > government is "too big"/"spending too much": anyone trying to claim > that is attempting to make a diversion to avoid its key policy point. You are way deep in the weeds. This is simple. You inflict tariffs on US goods, we will do the same to you. And why shouldn't we? > > -hh -- pothead Liberalism Is A Mental Disease Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>
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Re: Trumpcession pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-04-04 00:02 +0000
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-04 09:40 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-04 22:23 +0000
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Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-07 19:46 +0000
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-08 09:09 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-08 21:51 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-04-08 19:46 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-08 18:25 -0700
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-09 12:36 +0000
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-09 09:39 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-09 13:50 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 00:01 -0400
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-10 11:41 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-10 15:10 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-10 13:29 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-10 19:35 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-10 17:53 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-11 06:56 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-11 05:59 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-11 08:09 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-11 06:55 -0600
Re: Trumpcession Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-04-11 10:22 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-11 12:59 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-11 14:55 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-11 20:29 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-11 19:33 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-12 08:56 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-12 07:21 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-12 09:51 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-12 08:05 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-12 14:20 -0400
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Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-12 14:56 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-12 21:07 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-13 14:48 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-04-13 11:15 -0400
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Re: Trumpcession Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-04-14 02:52 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-14 13:10 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 12:36 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-14 22:41 +0000
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-14 20:21 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2025-04-14 17:51 -0700
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-17 18:14 -0500
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-20 12:41 +0000
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-21 06:59 -0400
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-22 06:56 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-22 07:55 -0700
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 20:43 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 15:19 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-22 07:11 -0500
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 20:50 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-23 07:06 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-23 09:24 -0500
Re: Trumpcession AlleyCat <al@aohello.con> - 2025-04-23 10:18 -0700
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-23 21:01 -0500
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 06:50 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-24 06:31 -0700
Re: Trumpcession J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-04-23 08:29 -0700
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Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-15 07:04 -0400
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Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-13 14:57 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-04-13 18:14 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 02:19 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2025-04-13 11:13 -0700
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-13 13:41 -0600
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-15 17:24 +0000
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-20 12:46 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-20 10:28 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-20 22:01 +0000
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Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-22 07:17 -0500
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Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-01 11:37 +0000
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Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-05 14:29 +0000
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Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-05 22:15 +0000
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Re: Trumpcession Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-22 07:08 -0400
Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-22 12:42 +0000
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 21:32 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 21:09 -0400
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-22 06:57 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-12 14:55 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-12 09:14 -0400
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-12 10:14 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-12 14:17 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-12 14:54 -0600
Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-11 17:52 -0700
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-12 10:08 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 15:42 -0400
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-09 09:38 -0400
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-09 13:47 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-09 12:00 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-09 14:27 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-09 12:32 -0600
Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-09 15:24 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> - 2025-04-09 15:41 -0600
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 00:17 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-09 21:50 -0700
Re: Trumpcession Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-04-09 16:25 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Duane D La Motte <another.wieber.loser@arent.they.all> - 2025-04-09 14:52 -0700
Re: Trumpcession Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-09 18:29 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-09 18:16 -0700
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 00:14 -0400
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-09 09:37 -0400
Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-10 11:42 -0400
Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 01:41 -0400
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