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Re: What about allowing numbers 1e19, etc.. (Re: Novacore is a Prolog profile that explores various relaxations)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Re: What about allowing numbers 1e19, etc.. (Re: Novacore is a Prolog profile that explores various relaxations)
Date 2025-03-21 19:29 +0100
Message-ID <vrkb6m$7bc3$1@solani.org> (permalink)
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Hi,

Interestingly unknowningly, to facilitate JSON
parsing, I had already partially introduced such
numbers. Namely I have already:

/* Dogelog Player 1.3.0 */
?- number_codes(X, "1e19").
X = 1.0e19.

SWI-Prolog consequently does the same:

/* SWI-Prolog 9.3.20 */
?- number_codes(X, "1e19").
X = 1.0e+19.

So all that remains is change the tokenizer a little
bit to allow 1e19. And then we can be lazy and
write 1e19, which is the winner in length, i.e. the

shortes variant among these variants:

- 10.0^19
- 10**19  /* except for SWI-Prolog 9.3.20 */
- 1.0e19
- 1e19

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Somehow I have the feeling it doesn't make
> sense to only recognize floating point numbers
> as number literals that have a period in it.
> 
> Most programming languages I have encountered
> also recognize floating point numbers when
> they have an exponent e or E in it:
> 
> - Python:
>  >>> 1e19
> 1e+19
> 
> - JavaScript:
>  > 1e19
> 10000000000000000000
> 
> JavaScript is a little special. Since it has a
> integer subset inside there floating point numbers.
> Now I find that SWI-Prolog also allows 1e19:
> 
> /* SWI-Prolog 9.3.20 */
> ?- X = 1e19.
> X = 1.0e+19.
> 
> I think this is a good idea. Since there is no
> confusion. Most Prolog systems I checked never
> alias an operator e with a number:
> 
> /* SWI-Prolog 9.3.20 */
> ?- op(500,yfx,e).
> true.
> 
> ?- X = 1 e 2.
> X = 1 e 2.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Interestingly a flag strict_iso could solve a few
>> vexing problems. For example the ISO core standard
>> did only mention floor/1 with signature F → I.
>>
>> So in GNU Prolog I can do:
>>
>> /* GNU Prolog 1.5.0 */
>>
>> ?- current_prolog_flag(strict_iso, X).
>> X = on
>> yes
>>
>> ?- X is floor(1).
>> uncaught exception: error(type_error(float,1),(is)/2)
>>
>> ?- set_prolog_flag(strict_iso, off).
>> yes
>>
>> ?- X is floor(1).
>> X = 1
>> yes
>>
>> A few Prolog systems don’t share the above behavior,
>> like SWI-Prolog for example doesn’t throw the type error.
>> Also SWI-Prolog has nowhere a flag strict_iso.
>>
>> Currently I have changed my Prolog system to tell me:
>>
>> /* Dogelog Player 1.3.1 */
>>
>> ?- current_prolog_flag(strict_iso, X).
>> X = off.
> 

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