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Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:33:27 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :


> On 2025-03-17 17:05, micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:01:16 +0100, "Carlos
>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-03-16 16:10, micky wrote:
>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:47:34 -0000 (UTC),
>>>> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:22:25 +0100 (CET), anon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/04/google_android/
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure they all do this (Apple, Google, someotherguy).
>>>>>
>>>>> I never expect ANY privacy on my phone, so never use is for things that
>>>>> require privacy. I assume that Google knows every keystroke I make. Then,
>>>>> on my only other device using Google (one browser on my desktop), I am
>>>>> careful what I do in that browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is one reason I've never trusted encrypted comm apps at all. Since my
>>>>> phone can see what I type and read, so can Google. They can see it when
>>>>> it's not encrypted yet, or already decrypted.
>>>>
>>>> Definitely google can.  That's how it's able to make suggestions on how
>>>> to finish what you were typing.  If it didn't know what you'd written,
>>>> the suggestions woudln't make sense.
>>>
>>> It depends on your keyboard choice, and it is clearly stated when you
>>> select it.
>> 
>> Maybe in Spain it's clearly stated, or maybe if you actually select it
>> and don't just use the default that comes installed, or maybe both.   At
>> any rate, I don't think I ever saw it stated that what I type could be
>> read by someone else.   Or even an implication that another keyboard
>> would not allow this.
> 
> The normal keyboard is silent. But some of the variants you can enable 
> have a text that say that google reads what you type. For instance, the 
> dictation "keyboard". And they warn you about it in the context of 
> typing passwords.

Carlos is correct. 

We've covered offline intelligent keyboards in the past.

Both the audio (speech to text) and the corrections can be done offline.
I don't remember all the details myself - but it's all in the archives.
 <https://tinyurl.com/nova-comp-mobile-android>

Settings > General Management > Keyboard list and default
 Samsung Keyboard
 Google Voice Typing
 OpenBoard <=== this is a good one
 Keepass2Android
 Automate
 Hackers Keyboard <=== a good one
 Button Mapper
 Helium Keyboard <=== a good one too
 Key Mapper Basic Input Method
 OpenBoard valencia <=== another good one

Very few (probably one out of a million) people know you do NOT need 
Gboard to get speech to text microphone on the keyboard!

You can use Openboard instead.
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dslul.openboard.inputmethod.latin>
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarevalencia.openboard.inputmethod.latin>

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How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app anon <anon@invalid.info> - 2025-03-16 14:22 +0100
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> - 2025-03-16 13:47 +0000
    Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-16 10:20 -0400
      Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-16 18:00 +0000
        Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-16 18:16 +0000
          Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-16 20:51 +0000
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:04 +0000
              Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 20:55 +0000
                Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app black hats <tipped@partners.invalid> - 2025-03-18 09:52 +0100
        Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 12:59 +0100
          Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 21:07 +0000
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 20:25 +0100
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-03-20 17:33 +0100
    Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-16 11:10 -0400
      Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 13:01 +0100
        Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-17 12:05 -0400
          Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:33 +0100
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 21:16 +0000
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-18 16:38 -0400
              Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 03:13 +0000
      Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:43 +0100
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-03-16 17:28 -0400
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:09 +0100
    Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 14:37 +0000
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-18 10:56 -0400

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