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Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation

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bw writes ("Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation"):
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I have read the bug logs and Trent Buck's message here
> >   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694068#47
> > seems to suggest a way forward.
> > 
> > Perhaps someone would care to write and test a patch to d-i's network
> > configuration arrangements, to implement Trent's suggestion ?  I think
> > that the people who don't have network-manager would probably prefer
> > this to use ifupdown, and making a whole new udeb will be work, so
> > Trent's second suggestion seems sensible.
> 
> Second suggestion being networkd preferred over ifupdown?  yeah, I had 
> thought this was going to come up eventually.  State it in plain english, 
> if ifupdown is to be replaced, then let's get on with it.

I appreciate that you have reason for your paranoia, but in this case
it is entirely misplaced.  You have misunderstood me.  I meant this
part of Trent's suggestion:

|  If you don't want to udebify wpa_passphrase, you can do it by hand:
|
|      cat >"/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant-$iface.conf" <<EOF
|      network={
|	 ssid="$ssid"
|	 psk="$passphrase"
|      }
|      EOF

which is part of a suggestion of how to configure ifupdown in the
installed system.

> I think the whole thread is unfortunate, because it was started by a 
> person (Long Wind) who earlier posted a request for help about how to hack 
> into their neighbor's wireless network to steal internet service.

"Whatever".  Now, this thread is about Bug#694068.  Which is annoying
a number of people and should be fixed.

> I'm really shocked that anybody would try and make wireless easier to use 
> for thieves.  They should be shunned, not used as example clueless users 
> to implement fixes or new features.

I struggle to see how fixing #694068 is about helping "thieves".

Ian.

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wireless fail after stretch installation Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-04 00:20 +0100
  Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-04 01:00 +0100
    Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 01:20 +0100
    Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-04 02:40 +0100
    Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-04 11:40 +0100
      Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2018-03-04 17:00 +0100
        Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2018-03-04 19:20 +0100
          Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2018-03-04 19:40 +0100
            Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2018-03-04 22:40 +0100
              Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-05 01:10 +0100
          Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-05 00:10 +0100
          Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-06 16:10 +0100
            Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-06 18:10 +0100
              Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-06 18:30 +0100
              Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-06 19:40 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-06 20:00 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-06 21:10 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-06 21:30 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-07 14:30 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2018-03-09 04:00 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-10 17:00 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-10 19:20 +0100
            Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-06 19:30 +0100
              Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-06 19:50 +0100
                Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Charlie S <taoquester@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 23:20 +0100
              Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Brian Potkin <brian@copernicus.org.uk> - 2018-03-06 20:30 +0100
              Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-07 14:30 +0100
  Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Charlie S <taoquester@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 02:50 +0100
    Re: wireless fail after stretch installation Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-04 10:00 +0100

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