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Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs
Date 2025-03-01 08:24 -0500
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On 2/28/2025 2:40 PM, Paul wrote:

> 
> And I'm not a fan of Adobe, and I don't put suggestions like
> this in a posting for fun. I've *removed* Adobe from my
> computers, due to "shenanigans". They're banned here.
> 
> They were an OK company, a more-than-OK company, before the
> "rental software era". Now they can just fuck right off.
> They've burned up a lot of goodwill.
> 

    Adobe have always been sleazy. They price gouge for
Photoshop because they can get away with it. They're
members of the Business Software Alliance, which sends
SWAT teams into businesses after getting tips from disgruntled
employees, while hiding the companies actually doing the
enforcement. Adobe have tried to gain control of the Internet
3 times -- With Flash Player, AIR and PDF.

   Then there's the rental-only change that left longtime
customers no choice but to pay rent.

   Then there are the artificial restrictions on PDF format that
helped Adobe maintain monopoly by giving away the viewer
but gouging for the editor.

   And of course there's
the wild bloat of their software. Last time I looked at
Acrobat Viewer it was something like 125 MB, and that was
many years ago. PDF Exchange Viewer, which provides me
with limited editing ability for free, is only 25 MB. Sumatra
viewer is something like 8 MB.

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Software for creating and editing PDFs Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-02-28 09:59 -0500
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-02-28 15:26 +0000
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-28 09:56 -0600
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-28 11:02 -0500
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-28 10:22 -0600
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-28 11:42 -0500
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-28 11:51 -0500
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-28 13:54 -0500
              Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 20:00 +0000
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 20:32 +0000
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-28 16:30 -0500
              Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 00:20 +0000
                Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 19:49 -0500
              Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 20:01 -0500
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-02 16:41 +0000
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-28 11:30 -0500
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-28 16:47 +0000
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-28 12:51 -0500
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-28 18:01 +0000
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-28 15:57 -0500
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Gelato <gelato@.is.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:01 -0500
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-01 10:45 -0800
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-01 14:55 -0500
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-03-02 15:17 -0500
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-02 20:25 -0500
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs MR <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 16:55 +0000
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-28 17:17 +0000
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-02-28 12:12 -0600
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:17 +0000
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-28 14:40 -0500
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-01 06:44 -0500
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-01 08:24 -0500
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-03-01 07:46 -0800
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-03-01 13:24 -0700
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Simon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com> - 2025-03-01 23:00 +0000
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> - 2025-03-03 19:05 -0500
  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-01 00:08 +0000

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