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Re: Convinced me, going to backup first.

From	Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Convinced me, going to backup first.
Date	2025-02-21 18:25 +1100
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On 21/02/2025 1:07 am, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 2/20/2025 4:04 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> 
>>> I believe the software uwed to insist on clone drives being as big
>>> as the source drive, but they now permit the destination drive to be
>>> only as big as the part of the source that has been used.    So in
>>> your example, if you'd only used 2GB of the 4GB and the destination
>>> drive was only 2GB big, that would work too.   Indeed, my new laptop
>>> drive is 1T (with much less used) and the destination drive was only
>>> 320GB and Macrium did not complain. And if I could install the clone
>>> drive in place of the original drive, the PC would not complain
>>> either.
>>>
>> O.K., so your EXPERIENCE is different to my UNDERSTANDING. So be it!!
> 
> Cloning was originally done at the sector level, using the "disk dump" dd
> utility. Such a utility laughs at details. The developer does not
> have to be very clever, to get a result by doing it that way. The clone
> copies every flaw.
> 
> Later, cloning was done at the cluster/inode level. Only the
> busy clusters needed to be copied from one disk to another disk.
> 
> As a further refinement, when the user requests that the target
> clone be smaller than the source, a combination of "file-by-file"
> and "cluster-based" activity makes the clone copy. This allows the
> clusters to be packed in, defragmented, and so on. The reserved space
> for NTFS, prevents perfect defragmentation from happening.
> 
> Those are examples of cloning. Some versions are more magical
> than others.
> 
>     Paul
> 
Wasn't there, at one time, an OS which, when formatting a HD, would put 
some data in the very last sector of the Drive??
-- 
Daniel70

Thread

Convinced me, going to backup first.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-14 22:27 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 03:06 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-15 04:51 -0600
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-15 08:42 -0500
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-15 10:58 -0600
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-15 23:34 -0500
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 23:46 -0700
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 09:21 -0500
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-01 18:08 -0400
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-15 09:14 -0500
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 11:21 +0000
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-16 13:45 -0500
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 13:14 -0700
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-16 17:53 -0600
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:49 -0700
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-10 10:33 -0400
              Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-03-10 13:24 -0500
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-10 10:38 -0400
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 20:54 +1100
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-18 11:53 -0500
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-20 20:04 +1100
              Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-20 09:07 -0500
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 18:25 +1100
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 09:21 -0500
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:06 +0000
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 16:16 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. eternal@notreally.com (Juancho) - 2025-02-16 18:31 +0100
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 19:51 -0500
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-17 06:48 -0500
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:06 +0000
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-17 10:58 -0500
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:38 +0000
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 12:49 -0700
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-17 22:05 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-28 00:16 +1000
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-05-27 10:34 -0500
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-27 14:31 -0400
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-28 20:12 +1000

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