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Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card
Date 2025-02-08 16:09 -0500
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On Sat, 2/8/2025 2:01 PM, micky wrote:
> My "new" renewed laptop has a smart-card reader, but no one has issued
> me a smart card  (Apparently I'm not smart enough to deserve one.) 
> 
> I know the reader is there -- I think -- because the slot in the side of
> the case is there. 
> 
> The service manual for this model gives detailed instructions on how to
> remove the smart card reader, but the next thing it says is how to
> install it again.  After all, it's a service manual, not an upgrade
> manual. 
> 
> The only electrical part of the removal instructions are "Disconnect the
> SmartCard reader flexible flat cabble (FFC) from the connector on the
> USH board.  Peel the SmartCard FFC from the palmrest. 
> 
> Is there much chance, most likely if I have the case open for another
> resson, I can take out the reader and put in something more useful, like
> another SSD, or maybe a DVD drive?  
> 
> Dell Latitude 5510
> 
> Jim Joyce had said weeks ago" "Most laptops within the past decade or
> more can accept a second (or even third) internal drive, sometimes at
> the expense of giving up the (mostly obsolete) optical drive."
> 

That's a microSD slot, not a full-sized one.

"Additionally, you can install a 2.5-inch SATA drive, but interestingly,
 Dell has limited your choice to only one of the two, as the M.2 drive
 stands in the way of the SATA drive bay."

One M.2 Key-M (2280 or 2230) for solid-state drive  <=== Overlaps SSD 2.5" bay
				                         Populated right now, thermal tape ?

One M.2 3042 Key-B for WWAN <=== Likely empty right now  (2242 B-key "SATA", 3.3V?)
				

One M.2 2230 Key-E for WLAN <=== Your Wifi card

I only see one option there. A SATA drive in M.2 form factor.
Something like this maybe. Preferably single-sided, so there
aren't potential thermal problems from the secondary side.

   https://www.amazon.ca/Transcend-Information-2-5-Inches-TS128GMTS430S/dp/B07KG2KFSX

But it really depends on whether the slot is wired properly,
as to whether it will work. Not a problem if there is a full PCH
with lots of FlexIO pins available to wire the slots properly.
The PCH is the Southbridge, and normally has more of the
lower speed I/O on it. Things like SATA are there.

Some of the modern processors, they are a SOC (System On (a) Chip)
and two SATA ports are on the processor itself. I don't know if the
design is sufficiently "SOC" such that a PCH is no longer required.
But with limited I/O on the processor, it might be hard to make
a fully functional design using just SOC pins for the job. Maybe a
tablet with no expansion options at all, could be built.

*******

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-ca/000144170/how-to-distinguish-the-differences-between-m-2-cards

Example of another model, and the hell you can go through.

https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/latitude/e5570-m2-2242-ssd-not-working-in-wwan-slot/647f8ca6f4ccf8a8decfc34c?page=1

   Paul

				

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My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-08 14:01 -0500
  Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-08 13:58 -0600
    Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-09 01:38 -0500
  Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 16:09 -0500
  Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 16:34 -0700
    Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:02 +0000
      Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-09 15:23 +0100
        Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-09 15:30 +0000
          Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-09 15:14 -0500
          Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-10 15:37 +0100
        Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-09 10:59 -0500
      Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 11:04 -0700
        Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-09 14:34 -0500
          Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:09 +0000
            Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-09 20:36 -0500
          Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 14:50 -0700

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