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Re: Newton e Hooke

From Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.research
Subject Re: Newton e Hooke
Date 2025-02-04 23:47 -0800
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Without a doubt, Newton relates force to acceleration and Hooke relates 
it to elastic deformation.

If I push the end A of a spring, do I compress it or accelerate it?

Obviously I compress it and accelerate it at the same time, because I 
am not pushing the elastic body of the spring but only its point A.

I ask myself: how much of my force is dedicated to compression and how 
much to acceleration?

Here too the answer is simple: it depends on the mass of the spring.

If the mass of the spring is small enough to tend to zero (ideal 
spring), the compression tends to zero and the acceleration tends to 
100%.

If the mass is large enough to tend to infinity, the compression tends 
to 100% and the acceleration tends to zero.

The difference between the force that compresses and the force that 
accelerates depends exclusively on the force opposite to ours.

In the first case, our force is opposed by an increasingly smaller 
opposing force (which tends to disappear) and then all our force 
becomes a net force that accelerates according to the second law.

In the second case, the opposing force becomes increasingly larger 
until it equals our force which becomes entirely Hooke's compressive 
force where there is no longer any net accelerating force.

Well, what is this opposing force that opposes our force? Obviously it 
is the inertia of the elastic body that we are pushing.

This inertia is a force that opposes our real force and, therefore, 
this force must also be *real*, exactly as the force of friction is 
real, because they have the same function: friction is a real force 
because it opposes our real force and inertia is a real force because 
it opposes our real force.

There are two inertias: there is the inertia of the body that persists 
in its rectilinear and uniform motion and this is not a real force and 
there is the inertia of the body that opposes the external force and 
this is a real force.

Luigi Fortunati

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Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-01-26 08:51 -0800
  Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-01-30 08:42 +0000
    Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 23:47 -0800
      Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 22:25 -0800
  Re: Newton e Hooke "Jonathan Thornburg [remove color- to reply]" <dr.j.thornburg@pink-gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 08:02 +0000
    Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-14 08:09 +0000
      Re: Newton e Hooke "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" <dr.j.thornburg@gmail-pink.com> - 2025-02-16 08:55 +0000
        Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 10:42 -0800
          Re: Newton e Hooke "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" <dr.j.thornburg@gmail-pink.com> - 2025-02-17 08:19 +0000
            Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 22:45 -0800
          Re: Newton e Hooke Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2025-02-18 08:23 +0000
      Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 10:42 -0800
        Re: Newton e Hooke "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" <dr.j.thornburg@gmail-pink.com> - 2025-02-17 08:19 +0000
          Re: Newton e Hooke "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" <dr.j.thornburg@gmail-pink.com> - 2025-02-18 08:23 +0000
            Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-20 07:56 +0100
              Re: Newton e Hooke Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 18:13 +0100
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                Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke) "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" <dr.j.thornburg@gmail-pink.com> - 2025-03-01 09:18 +0000
                Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke) Luigi Fortunati <fortunati.luigi@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 08:09 +0000
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                Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke) "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" <dr.j.thornburg@gmail-pink.com> - 2025-03-02 09:14 +0000

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