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Re: Problems with Microsoft account

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Problems with Microsoft account
Date 2025-02-03 20:26 -0500
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On Mon, 2/3/2025 1:22 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My wife and me bought both a time ago a laptop with a W11 account. I configured my account and I found out that my laptop was not accessible from our local network. It was a Microsoft account. I created a new non Microsoft account and deleted the MS account. Now was my laptop accessible from the network.
> But this was a long time ago. Now I want to access my wife's laptop from the laptop, and while she still haves her MS account, I can't access her.
> As it is quite a job to create a new non MS account, and set all things and software from her current MS account over to her new account, is it perhaps possible to change her MS account to a non MS account?
> I'm curious to your answers.
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
> With kind regards,
> Fokke Nauta

You don't have to do any of this. Stop right there.

                 +-------------------------------+
                 |                               |
                 |                               |
          folke@gmail.com  <=== login          wifey@gmail.com  <=== login
             bullwinkle                       bullwinkle        <=== a local account, purely for fileshare usage!

In this example, bullwinkle is just a local account. It is used to
establish a credential for file sharing, and that is its only purpose.

When you connect to the other machine for file sharing, you would
enter the made-up account "bullwinkle" and enter the password.
It's easiest to maintain file sharing, if all machines have the same
password for "bullwinkle" account.

When I connect to the other machine across the room from me, I am
logging in with "pauls@gmail.com" to my own machine. The other machine
does not have a gmail account, it does not have an MSA. The other
machine is using local login, and the file sharing still works, because
the other machine has the credential information for a match.

                 +-------------------------------+
                 |                               |
                 |                               |
          pauls@gmail.com  <=== login          bullwinkle  <=== login and fileshare purposes
             bullwinkle    <=== fileshare

What you log into the machine with, is a separate issue from
planning for fileshare.

*******

Let us say I am security-minded. I insist on each bullwinkle account having
a unique password.

                 +-------------------------------+
                 |                               |
                 |                               |
          folke@gmail.com  <=== login          wifey@gmail.com  <=== login
             bullwinkle                       bullwinkle        <=== a local account, purely for fileshare usage!
             PW=12345678                      PW=87654321

If I am sitting at the console of the left-hand machine,
and I see the "wifey" machine and I connect, I will be typing in

             username   bullwinkle
             oassword   87654321

I enter the password that is used on the foreign machine, as
the credential we are matching, is the credential the machine
on the right knows about. It only knows about the "87654321"
password, and that's what we will type in.

You will not be clicking the "bullwinkle" entry on the lockscreen.
You will not be logging into the computer as bullwinkle,
or running computer programs as bullwinkle. The bullwinkle
account exists only for filesharing purposes. If you want
to make all the bullwinkle accounts use "12345678", you can do that.

An example of a "rich" password is "Passw0rd!", as it contains
upper case, lower case, a number, and some punctuation. It is
an example of a "formulation method" that takes slightly longer
to crack :-) Don't use that particular example, just use it
as a template, as a way to make a better password than "12345678".

As far as I know, the Bullwinkle account does not need to belong
to the Administrator group. That's an unnecessary risk. But if you have
a bad habit of deleting the last administrator account on the PC, then
making the account belong to the administrator group, gives you one
more account that can be used for maintenance purposes (when you lose
the normal administrator account you would use).

   Paul

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Problems with Microsoft account Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-02-03 19:22 +0100
  Re: Problems with Microsoft account Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-02-03 19:38 +0100
    Re: Problems with Microsoft account Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-03 18:52 +0000
  Re: Problems with Microsoft account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 20:44 +0000
    Re: Problems with Microsoft account Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-02-13 15:12 +0100
      Re: Problems with Microsoft account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-14 07:54 +0000
        Re: Problems with Microsoft account Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-02-28 18:55 +0100
  Re: Problems with Microsoft account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-03 14:34 -0700
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      Re: Problems with Microsoft account Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-03 23:09 +0000
    Re: Problems with Microsoft account Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:46 -0600
  Re: Problems with Microsoft account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 20:26 -0500
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        Re: Problems with Microsoft account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-04 12:25 +0000
  Re: Problems with Microsoft account Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-02-13 15:13 +0100

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