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Re: Problems with Microsoft account

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Fokke Nauta wrote:
> On 03/02/2025 19:22, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My wife and me bought both a time ago a laptop with a W11 account. I 
>> configured my account and I found out that my laptop was not 
>> accessible from our local network. It was a Microsoft account. I 
>> created a new non Microsoft account and deleted the MS account. Now 
>> was my laptop accessible from the network.
>> But this was a long time ago. Now I want to access my wife's laptop 
>> from the laptop, and while she still haves her MS account, I can't 
>> access her.
>> As it is quite a job to create a new non MS account, and set all 
>> things and software from her current MS account over to her new 
>> account, is it perhaps possible to change her MS account to a non MS 
>> account?
>> I'm curious to your answers.
>> Many thanks in advance.
>>
>> With kind regards,
>> Fokke Nauta
> 
> BTW, both laptops are W11 Pro.


None of this is easy.  Probably it is most sensible to copy the things 
you want to a memory stick and transfer it from one laptop to the other. 
  Or send via email.

But if you want to share things via your LAN you should start again from 
scratch and create identical local accounts on both laptops.  See below 
from Java Jive as posted in a.c.o.Windows-11 for how to do this, as follows:

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Windows Sharing Instructions
============================

IMO, M$'s default sharing arrangements have always been dangerously 
insecure.  What follows is the comparatively secure
way that I've always set up sharing, ever since Windows 2000.

Note: These are W7 instructions only, other versions of Windows will
obviously be similar but not exactly the same, because of M$'
pointless and idiotic habit of hiding all the control levers in
different places with every new edition of Windows, thus forcing
people continually to relearn everything they've known for years. (Can
you imagine the catastrophic chaos that would result on the roads if
car manufacturers decided to do that?).

In what follows, I assume that you want to create shares on each PC
visible to others, and that none are work PCs authenticating to a domain
controller server.

On each PC:

1)    Go into ...
     Control Panel, All Control Panel Items,System,
     Advanced system settings, Computer Name, Change
... and ensure that name and workgroup are changed to something
memorable from the defaults, and that the latter is the same for all
the machines that you wish to share files together.

2)    Any user wishing to access a share on a PC must have a user
account on that PC, so set up the necessary accounts up on each PC,
giving them the same logon user id and password as they normally use on
their own PC.  (If on a particular PC you want a user only to be able
to access a share, but not be able to sign on to it, you still need
his/her account to exist, but then it must be added to a block list in
that PC's security policy  -  however, this may not be possible on
some lower cost editions of Windows, and is beyond the scope of these
notes).

3)    Go into ...
     Control Panel, All Control Panel Items,
     Network and Sharing Center, Advanced sharing settings
... and set the following:
     Network discovery
         Probably on, unless reason otherwise;
     File and printer sharing
         Probably on, unless reason otherwise;
     Public folder sharing
         Probably off, unless reason otherwise;
     Media streaming
         Probably off, unless reason otherwise;
     File sharing connections
         Use 128-bit, unless reason otherwise;
     Password protected sharing
         Turn on;
     HomeGroup connections
         Use user accounts and passwords.

4)    On each directory or drive of each machine that you want to
share, creating subdirectories for this as required ...
         <rt-click>, Share with,
             Advanced sharing, Advanced sharing;
         Select Share this folder;
         Type a suitable share name
             (Note:  ending it with a '$' will hide it from
             users casually browsing from other Windows PCs,
             but Linux users may still see it via Samba);
         Type a suitable comment, if required;
         Click Permissions, remove the relatively insecure
         default permissions offered, and then click ...
             Add, Advanced, Find Now
         ... and by <click>ing and <ctrl-click>ing select and add
         the following:
             Admininstrators
             System
             Authenticated Users
         ... and then give them the following permissions ...
             Admininstrators        Full Control
             System            Full Control
             Authenticated Users    Read or Read/Change
                             as required

5)    If necessary, but DO NOT DO THE FOLLOWING ON THE WINDOWS FOLDER OR 
OTHER SYSTEM FOLDERS (hopefully you're not trying to share these anyway, 
not normally recommended) including user folders but sub-directories of 
the latter that you've created especially to share are perfectly safe ...

<rt-click> the drive or directory being shared
and select ...
         Properties
         Security
... and ensure the above permissions are replicated on the drive or
folder itself.

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-- 
Graham J

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