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Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues

From	Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues
Date	2025-02-02 23:17 -0700
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2/2/2025 7:50 PM, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-02-02 21:26, chrisv wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Similarly, the AI doing the Google searches, is doing
>>> a shit job, and I'm now looking at a situation were
>>> I don't get any help at all from the Internet any more.
>>>
>>> AI is definitely a "mission accomplished" thing. It's
>>> trashed the Internet. Good work.
>>
>> It's not done until it's trashed human society.  Eventually we'll have
>> no reason to think, at all.
> 
> That's nonsense  ...  It's like saying that because we have calculators 
> we don't need to be able to do any mental arithmetic, but you always 
> need to be able to check that the result you get is reasonable to be 
> sure that you haven't miskeyed something while entering the calculation. 
>   Or it's like saying that because we have navigation apps no-one will 
> need to read maps or think about what the app is telling them to do. 
> Remember the German couple who drove off the end of a pier, and, IMS, 
> drowned, because their navigation app told them to?!  Or the Euro 
> continental lorry drivers who enter "Gibraltar" into their nav apps and 
> end up in a tiny English village that happens to have the same name?! 
> Didn't any penny drop when they had to take a Channel ferry?  Etc, etc.

As best I only see, a significant portion of the younger generations can 
neither do simple arithmetic nor 1-step logical deductions (or the 
informal equivalents or approximations). In other words, they cannot 
verify or validate much of the information presented to them. I see, as 
a result, such moves as not accepting cash at many stories.

I asked an owner of a fast food place why. The answer: The schools 
didn't teach them arithmetic and I think they are too old to learn! I 
also recall an experience a few years ago. I selected some supplies at a 
store in Marina del Rey (part of greater LA) and approached the cash 
register where a vacant looking 20 something young lady was the cashier. 
She laboriously rings up the items and the total comes to $19.99. I take 
out my wallet, hand her a $20 bill and apologize for not having anything 
smaller. She says nothing, does not crack a smile, and remains frozen 
until the register tells her to give me a penny back. Still no reaction.

So you really think we, collectively, will be able to profit from 
information that allows us to double check our computers? These are the 
same folks who are frightened by vaccines and community health. (I know 
there is a small number of people who have predictable poor reactions, 
but they're generally not the ones spouting conspiracy theories.)

The promise that connectivity (the internet) would improve society and 
its human inhabitants has been shown false. Rather, it has led to 
intellectually laziness and polarization. Non-vetted results are repeat 
as gospel and we are all manipulated and exploited. The point is that 
the vast majority of us are entrenched in this madness and our brain's 
off switch has been thrown.

We do not regain rationality when presented with quality information 
unless we agree with it before it is presented to us. When I say "we" I 
included all of us who have spent our lives using our brain; we all seem 
to have these blind spots where we would rather believe than think.
-- 
Jeff Barnett

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Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-01 21:55 +0000
  Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-01 19:07 -0500
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 20:11 -0500
      Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-02 03:24 +0000
        Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-02 04:05 +0000
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-02 07:19 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-02 07:55 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 23:22 +0000
        Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 00:08 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-02 13:57 +0000
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 23:19 +0000
        Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 16:05 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 23:17 +0000
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-02 19:26 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-02 14:49 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:29 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:26 -0600
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-03 02:50 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-03 04:03 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-02 23:17 -0700
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-03 13:16 +0000
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 20:03 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-08 20:12 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 21:06 -0500
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-02 07:11 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:34 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 20:29 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:36 +0000
            Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-08 08:44 +0000
              Re: Kexec (and HyperV) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:41 -0500
              Re: Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:42 +0000
                Re: Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-09 00:25 +0000
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-08 09:05 -0500
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:44 +0000
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 19:05 -0500
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-09 13:58 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 21:18 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 21:05 -0500
  Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-01 21:53 -0600
  Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 21:23 -0500
    Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:36 +0000
  Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:41 +0000
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 19:14 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 20:26 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 20:50 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:57 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-08 15:22 +0000
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:24 -0500
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-08 18:36 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:49 -0500
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:48 -0600
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:43 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-08 20:41 +0000
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 16:12 -0500
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 00:35 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:54 +0000
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 19:07 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 00:40 +0000
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-18 21:51 +0000
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 17:11 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-19 01:06 +0000

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