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Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)

From	DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)
Date	2025-02-02 21:23 -0500
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On 2/1/2025 4:55 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Many years ago, a software engineer named Fred Brooks predicted that
> some systems could get so complex that they would exceed a manageable
> threshold of complexity, where every attempt to fix a bug would just
> create new ones.
> 
> Microsoft passed this point a long time ago. Read this
> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-24h2s-wild-ride-some-fixes-are-in-but-other-bugs-still-linger/>
> and think: how many times have you heard of this sort of thing, just
> in the past year? Some choice quotes:
> 
>      When Microsoft rolled out another Windows 11 24H2 update for
>      January's Patch Tuesday, instead of fixing existing issues, the
>      update created more havoc, causing conflicts with audio,
>      Bluetooth, webcams, and more. But a preview update released on
>      Jan. 28 finally fixed several glitches -- both old and new.
> 
> But then qualifies this by saying:
> 
>      But before you dive into the 2024 update, know that you may run
>      into some problems and conflicts. The new version has been plagued
>      by bugs that could prevent you from using Windows reliably and
>      effectively.
> 
> So fix some problems, add new ones. Conclusion:
> 
>      The number of bugs in Windows 11 24H2 also seems greater than in
>      past annual Windows updates. The ongoing spread of one bug after
>      another and Microsoft's need to stall the update for many people
>      both point to a problem with this latest version.


Conclusion: OS's are extremely complicated pieces of code that will 
never be "perfect".


> Not the first time Windows has had this sort of trouble! It has become
> a regular occurrence the past few years.


The large GuhNoo part of your lamebrain seems to have completely 
forgotten the Linux kernel alone has suffered many thousands of 
regressions through the years.

"It’s a regression if something running fine with one Linux kernel works 
worse or not at all with a newer version."

There's so many that academics at major institutions write papers about 
them:

https://static.lwn.net/images/pdf/kernel_regressions.pdf  (see Table 1)

https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.02091

https://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2004/papers/41-janis-johnson-reghunt_kernel.pdf

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3634737.3637642



It's clear you're being true to yourself and have decided to identify as 
a lying Linux idiot.

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Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-01 21:55 +0000
  Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-01 19:07 -0500
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 20:11 -0500
      Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-02 03:24 +0000
        Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-02 04:05 +0000
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-02 07:19 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-02 07:55 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 23:22 +0000
        Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 00:08 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-02 13:57 +0000
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 23:19 +0000
        Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 16:05 -0500
          Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 23:17 +0000
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-02 19:26 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-02 14:49 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:29 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:26 -0600
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-03 02:50 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-03 04:03 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-02 23:17 -0700
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-03 13:16 +0000
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 20:03 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-08 20:12 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 21:06 -0500
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-02 07:11 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:34 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 20:29 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:36 +0000
            Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-08 08:44 +0000
              Re: Kexec (and HyperV) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:41 -0500
              Re: Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:42 +0000
                Re: Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-09 00:25 +0000
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-08 09:05 -0500
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:44 +0000
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 19:05 -0500
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-09 13:58 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 21:18 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 21:05 -0500
  Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-01 21:53 -0600
  Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 21:23 -0500
    Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:36 +0000
  Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:41 +0000
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 19:14 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 20:26 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 20:50 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:57 -0500
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-08 15:22 +0000
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:24 -0500
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-08 18:36 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:49 -0500
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:48 -0600
            Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:43 +0000
              Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-08 20:41 +0000
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 16:12 -0500
                Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 00:35 +0000
        Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:54 +0000
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 19:07 -0500
          Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 00:40 +0000
    Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-18 21:51 +0000
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 17:11 -0500
      Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-19 01:06 +0000

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