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| From | ron <ronbarnes@linuxmail.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | talk.politics.guns, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.os.linux.advocacy, sac.politics, alt.politics.nationalism.white |
| Subject | Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. |
| Date | 2025-01-12 22:59 -0800 |
| Organization | dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider |
| Message-ID | <vm2dkv$7r9$1@toxic.dizum.net> (permalink) |
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On 1/6/2025 7:08 PM, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> you're claiming that architectures and designs and protocols can't >>>>>>>>>>>> be "precisely identifed"? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They never were in this case. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You were present for this, were you? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You think that the architecture--the data structures, the communication >>>>>>>>>> protocols, etc.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ...you think that all was written down? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You think that they just sat down and started coding? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cutler knew how to approach the project, it's simple, it resembled >>>>>>>>> what he'd done before, but that's not *copying* in an IP context. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And yet, Microsoft paid $100 MILLION dollars to avoid a lawsuit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And many people have described all the ways that NT copied VMS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They wanted the suit to go away, they settled, it's not capitulation >>>>>>> to the suit's real claim, they could've defeated that. >>>>>> >>>>>> I provided you with a source that says that structures from VMS were >>>>>> copied almost verbatim. >>>>> >>>>> And that is infringement? We can copyright abstract layouts? >>>> You're dragging the goalposts. >>>> >>>> Whether or not it is "infringment", it was COPYING. >>>> >>>> 'The similarities between VMS and NT are striking. The VMS Interrupt >>>> Priority Level became the Interrupt Request Level in NT, the >>>> Asynchronous System Trap became the Asynchronous Procedure Call, a Fork >>>> Procedure became the Deferred Procedure Call, while some other >>>> terminology was copied verbatim.' >>>> >>>> <https://www.abortretry.fail/p/the-history-of-windows-nt-31> >>>> >>>> 'copied verbatim' >>>> >>>> Got it yet? No? >>>> >>>> Okay! >>>> >>>> 'Those similarities could fill a book. In fact, you can read sections of >>>> VAX/VMS Internals and Data Structures (Digital Press) as an accurate >>>> description of NT internals simply by translating VMS terms to NT terms. >>>> Table 1 lists a few VMS terms and their NT translations.' >>>> >>>> <https://www.itprotoday.com/server-virtualization/windows-nt-and-vms-the-rest-of-the-story> >>>> >>>> That last one was authored by: >>>> >>>> "Mark Eugene Russinovich (born December 22, 1966) is a Spanish-born >>>> American software engineer and author who serves as CTO of Microsoft Azure." >>>> >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Russinovich> >>>> >>>> But what would the guy who wrote a product to "manage, diagnose, >>>> troubleshoot, and monitor a Microsoft Windows environment." know about >>>> Windows NT. >>>> >>>> LOL >>> >>> Russinovich is *God*, first of all. Hail him, like Linus and Richard. >>> Great programmer for all time. But he's not suggesting that actual >>> VMS code was "copied" by MS, it's ideas, more abstract. It's not >>> infringement. >> >> But the threshold was NEVER infringement, dickhead. >> >> You claimed that nothing was "copied". >> >> The IDEAS were copied. >> >> VERBATIM. > > > How would infringement not be the threshold? Software patenting is > discredited. DEC was just flaunting legal muscle, MS wisely got them > off their back. What about DECWindows? Was DEC robbed twice?
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Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 23:33 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 06:31 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 09:42 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 13:03 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 10:19 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 13:23 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 10:53 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 14:17 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 11:23 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 14:36 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 15:49 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 19:01 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 16:20 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 19:35 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 16:41 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 19:54 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 16:56 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 20:09 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 17:12 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 20:23 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 17:27 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 20:37 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 17:49 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 20:55 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 18:05 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 21:11 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 18:58 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 22:08 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-06 20:42 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. ron <ronbarnes@linuxmail.org> - 2025-01-12 22:59 -0800
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 13:56 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 14:25 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 13:55 -0500
Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 13:53 -0500
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