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Re: OT: Streaming

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: OT: Streaming
Date 2025-01-09 19:37 -0500
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On Wed, 1/8/2025 2:51 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/8/2025 2:02 PM, Paul wrote:
>>
>> And if I hadn't been in a rush, I would have found this one
>> and tossed it in.
>>
>>    https://developers.google.com/widevine/drm/overview
>>
> 
>  Doesn't help, anyway. This seems very fishy. I went to the library.
> They were very helpful but didn't know anything. One librarian
> loaded the movie I'd wanted on her cellphone and it started fine.
> 
>   That makes me wonder whether maybe these companies have
> stopped supporting browsers for security reasons. Yet a browser
> or a limited selection of TVs is the only option they list for
> Desktop. Perhaps they've somehow misidentified me as being
> on a mobile computer? But I tried 2 computers, 3 separate
> Windows installs, 2 browsers on each, plus the RPi4. The only
> commonality at this point seems to be my IP address. Yet both
> Kanopy and Hoopla let me log in, browse, select a video. The
> video just doesn't start.
> 
>   I did have an interesting experience with AI, though. I wrote
> to Kanopy and got a generic resonse that told me to describe
> the problem, which I'd already done. I wrote back. "Eustacia"
> answered with a list of troubleshooting tips. I wrote back and
> said it looks like no human is actually reading my emails, but I'm
> writing back just in case. I reiterated the details.
>    Eustacia then wrote back with an interesting response, saying
> that, yes, actually, there are no humans. There's just an
> auto-response providing standard troubleshooting tips. But if
> I write enough times then the computer will forward it to the
> developers. Was 3 times enough? I don't know.
> 
>   So no one is minding the store. It's an automated operation.
> But I thought it was interesting that my wording seemed to
> provoke the software to admit that I'm just talking to a computer.
> That made me curious. With the right cues, could one make an
> AI chatbot give one privileged information, like the home phone
> number of the Kanopy CEO?
> 
>   And why are they pretending to have tech support? Why does
> a bot write to me with a name, expressing sympathy? Do they
> think that's somehow more helpful?

Google search: "debug version of widevine client"

Apparently, enabling some kind of debugging mode can affect the results.

https://xdaforums.com/t/turning-on-usb-debugging-will-lose-your-devices-widevine-l1.4626703/

Four years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverseEngineering/comments/jlazk8/widevinel3decryptor_a_chrome_extension_that/

   "This PoC was done to further show that code obfuscation, anti-debugging tricks,
    whitebox cryptography algorithms and other methods of security-by-obscurity will
    eventually by defeated anyway, and are, in a way, pointless."

And that's a sign the method is not as good as a Protected Video Path on a PC,
where the stream is inaccessible to tricks and is hidden in hardware. Some portion
of the Widevine, is still within reach.

It's a cracking factory out there. At least everyone has a hobby.
It gives people something to do.

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/414835-Pywidevine-l3-py-Two-versions-for-debugging-and-normal-ops

   Paul

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OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 23:21 -0500
  Re: OT: Streaming Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 08:36 -0500
    Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-06 10:45 -0500
      Re: OT: Streaming Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:38 -0500
        Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-06 19:33 -0500
        Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0500
          Re: OT: Streaming Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:58 -0500
          Re: OT: Streaming Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-08 14:02 -0500
            Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-08 14:51 -0500
              Re: OT: Streaming Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:16 -0500
              Re: OT: Streaming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:27 +0000
                Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 22:12 -0500
                Re: OT: Streaming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 11:57 -0500
                Re: OT: Streaming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 17:12 +0000
              Re: OT: Streaming Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:37 -0500
                Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 22:18 -0500
                Re: OT: Streaming Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-09 23:12 -0500
                Re: OT: Streaming Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 09:17 -0500

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