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Re: A New Machine Progresses

From Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: A New Machine Progresses
Date 2024-12-28 15:27 -0600
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On 12/28/2024 8:02 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> REAL MEN never do such things.  It is womanish behavior.
> 
> AI is for pussies, wusses, and pansies.


Sure, but I think this argument applies only to exact sciences, and even 
there, only as long as features like "worry", "care", "analogy", ... 
haven't been fully implemented in it.


Right now (i.e. with what I see in ChatGPT) AI is only a superb language 
machine. I think the use of it in that field is gratifying. It knows 
many languages (including Persian) quite well. It both knows where a 
word can be used, and in what contexts, too. No dictionary + thesaurus 
combo has this service provided to you.

An example: Ask chatGPT what the origins of the word "zircon" are. It 
can list a good amount of information on that. But it stops there. It 
does not give you even a hint of, say, why zircon suddenly became very 
important among scientists. To access that, you need to be a scientist 
too to ask for it :) Then, you'll see that he knows and tells you a lot 
about why zircon is important in science.

The example above shows AI's present productive use as well is its 
_present_ shortcomings (requiring that you be a scientist in the example 
above) in telling you more about it.

I bet a thing like a much better AI than chatGPT exists but is not 
accessible by public. THAT machine would also tell you why zircon became 
important starting around late 1950s :)



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A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-25 17:48 +0000
  Re: A New Machine Progresses chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-25 12:22 -0600
    Re: A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-25 18:42 +0000
      Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-26 02:25 +0000
        Re: A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-26 08:13 +0000
        Re: A New Machine Progresses chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-26 06:58 -0600
          Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-26 15:06 +0000
    Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-26 16:21 -0500
      Re: A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 10:13 +0000
        Re: A New Machine Progresses Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-27 07:50 -0500
          Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-27 15:03 -0500
        Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 14:11 -0600
          Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 15:18 -0500
            Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 14:36 -0600
              Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 15:43 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 14:56 -0600
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 15:59 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 15:05 -0600
                Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-27 20:55 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 21:22 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-27 22:38 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 20:32 -0600
                Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-27 22:38 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 21:47 -0600
                Re: A New Machine Progresses rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-28 00:13 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 20:04 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-28 02:05 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 21:27 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses brock <brockt@allied_.abc> - 2024-12-28 09:29 +0100
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 08:33 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:30 -0700
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 10:45 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-12-28 11:45 -0700
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 13:50 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-12-29 04:47 -0700
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:48 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-31 04:11 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 16:08 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:28 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 02:00 -0800
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 11:58 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2025-01-01 12:31 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 14:22 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2025-01-01 14:49 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 14:55 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2025-01-01 16:49 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-02 08:06 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 18:22 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-03 08:20 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2025-01-01 17:04 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-02 08:05 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:25 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:26 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 11:56 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:27 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 10:52 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:54 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 15:24 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:44 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 07:51 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:21 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 11:55 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Ted <ted.street@yahoo.net> - 2024-12-28 10:53 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 12:41 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Ted <ted.street@yahoo.net> - 2024-12-28 12:45 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 12:56 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Ted <ted.street@yahoo.net> - 2024-12-28 13:02 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 16:58 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-28 10:58 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 16:58 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-29 02:48 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 13:59 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-29 22:37 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 19:48 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 02:04 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-31 10:44 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-31 21:21 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-31 13:47 -0800
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 16:52 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-31 22:43 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 18:29 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:41 -0800
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-31 23:44 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 18:47 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-31 23:59 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:06 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-01 00:18 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:44 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-01 00:52 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 20:24 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-02 08:04 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-31 19:19 -0800
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-02 08:03 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-02 08:02 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-02 08:01 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Klaus Schadenfreude <katt@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 13:25 -0800
                Re: A New Machine Progresses "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-03 08:21 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Klaus Schadenfreude <katt@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 09:15 -0800
                Re: A New Machine Progresses -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-31 17:12 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-28 01:57 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-28 02:11 +0000
          Re: A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 14:02 +0000
            Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 10:11 -0500
              Re: A New Machine Progresses Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 12:22 -0500
            Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 15:27 -0600
              Re: A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 22:01 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:07 -0600
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 23:20 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 18:24 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 18:39 -0600
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 09:23 +0000
                Re: A New Machine Progresses DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 19:14 -0500
                Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 19:57 -0600
  Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:01 -0600
  Re: A New Machine Progresses Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:03 -0600
  Re: A New Machine Progresses DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 18:50 -0500

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