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Re: [likely out of luck]

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: [likely out of luck]
Date 2018-02-17 20:30 +0100
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On 02/17/2018 10:13 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Richard Owlet wrote:
>>>> Is there a recommended site that gives
>>>> a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what
>>>> <https://www.datamation.com/open-source/how-to-setup-kde-activities.html>
>>>> does for KDE}?
> 
> John Hasler wrote:
>>> <http://www.fvwm.org/> is what there is.
> 
>> That page prompted the question ;<
> 
> Google for "fvwm2rc". It is rewarding to add the word "examples".
> 
> 
> My experience with installing Debian package fvwm2 two years ago would
> have been much worse if i did not have the file ~/.fvwm2rc from my eight
> year older workstation. Actually i carry it from system to system since
> a SuSE installation in year 2000.
> 
> Fvwm is not a desktop like KDE or Gnome but rather a window manager,
> which nowadays is only a smaller part of the desktop goals.
> It offers no GUI library and thus has no fat applications depending on it.
> If you use KDE or Gnome applications then you pull in half of their very
> many libraries.
> 
> Fvwm is software for people who don't want look-and-feel to change for
> the mere reason that another decade went by.
> One has to customize it by editing the configuration file, not by
> drag-and-drop. It is best used with a zillion xterm windows and a few
> inavoidable GUI programs like web browser or PDF reader.
> 
> I simply love it.
> 

This is a general question about the relationship of "window managers" 
and "desktop environments".

I'm getting the impression that:
   1. a window manager can manage several desktops.
   2. each desktop may or may not have an associated desktop environment.

If a window manager launches 3 desktops:
   1. there need not be any relationship between the 3 desktop
      environments.
   2. all could be different configurations of MATE such that
      a. one desktop would only have program icons for creating
         documents.
      b. one would only have program icons for doing matrix algebra.
      c. one would only have program icons for web browsing and email.

How many fallacies or misunderstanding above?
TIA

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Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 13:40 +0100
  Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-16 18:00 +0100
    Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 21:00 +0100
      Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-16 22:00 +0100
        Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-16 22:50 +0100
          Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 23:10 +0100
        Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 23:00 +0100
          Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-19 14:10 +0100
            Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-19 15:00 +0100
            Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2018-02-28 07:40 +0100
              Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-28 13:50 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2018-02-28 14:10 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2018-02-28 18:10 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-03-02 01:30 +0100
              Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-28 14:30 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 15:10 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-28 16:20 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-28 16:40 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-02-28 16:50 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-28 17:50 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-03-02 01:30 +0100
                Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-03-02 01:40 +0100
  [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 04:40 +0100
    Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces  effectively Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-02-17 11:30 +0100
      Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-17 12:20 +0100
        Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces  effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 14:20 +0100
      Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces  effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 14:00 +0100
    Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-02-17 14:20 +0100
      Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces  effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 15:30 +0100
    Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 14:50 +0100
      Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces  effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 15:40 +0100
        Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 16:10 +0100
          Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces  effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 16:40 +0100
            Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 17:20 +0100
              Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 17:50 +0100
              Re: [likely out of luck] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 20:30 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 20:50 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-19 18:40 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-19 20:00 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-17 22:10 +0100
                [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 22:50 +0100
                Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 23:10 +0100
                Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 23:30 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 22:10 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 22:30 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 22:50 +0100
                Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 23:20 +0100
          fvwm resources, was Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's  workspaces effectively David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-17 17:20 +0100

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