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Re: Who Knows Hardware?

From DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Who Knows Hardware?
Date 2024-12-17 16:27 -0500
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On 12/17/2024 1:05 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>> On 12/13/2024 10:11 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>>> On 12/12/2024 10:16 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have faith in Linux, that it can ruin Microsoft's Windows business.
>>>>> That keeps me here.
>>>>
>>>> Smarter, more informed FOSS bozos than you have been drooling that
>>>> thought for 3+ decades.
>>>>
>>>> Despite the info being easily available, you wackos still don't seem to
>>>> understand how entrenched Windows is everywhere in the world.
>>>>
>>>> Your world, and Feeb's, will fade to black LONG before Microsoft's.
>>>
>>> The two platforms coexist, I don't know why we're even talking about
>>> Winblows being "ruined".
>>
>> It's just ignorant GuhNoo drooling.  No substance to their fantasies.
>> There never has been, for 30+ years.
> 
> 
> Win11 remains the prince OS, supporting bleeding-edge hardware.
> 
> 
>>> It's ruined simply by outpacing the hardware
>>> people typically have to boot it,
>>
>> Win11 Pro runs fast on my low-end system:
>>
>> item and current new prices:
>>
>> AMD 5600G chip  $139
>> MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk mobo $140
>> Crucial 16GB DDR4-3200 memory  $33
>> nVidia GTX 750Ti 2GB single-fan video  $124
>> Team 256GB NVMe boot/app drive  $23
>> WD 2TB   SSD  data/storage drive $189
>>
>> Total $648
>>
>> It's not easy to even find a prebuilt AMD 5600 system more expensive
>> than that.  So Win11 has NOT outpaced low-end hardware.
>>
>> The benchmarks on my system are low, but in use it's fast at everything.
>>   The most noticeable bottleneck by far is copying big files to my HDD
>> backup drive.
>>
>>> Linux provides a usable alternative,
>>> but people stubbornly, patiently put up with M$.
>>
>> No duh.  Windows runs all their home and work software, documents, and
>> games.
>>
>> I can plug my iPhone into a USB port and it shows up in Windows Explorer
>> right away (after I hit 'Allow' on the phone).  At that point I can
>> mostly treat the iPhone as any other storage device.
>>
>> Can you plug your Android phone into your Debian system and read the
>> picture files just as easily?
> 
> 
> You're tolerating the bloat, I'm not.  

I want some evidence for Windows 'bloat' that affects you.

In the face of $50 to $70 per TB of SSD, an extra 40GB of storage costs 
approx $2 to $3.  And 40GB is probably way overstating the incremental 
storage space required for Windows and Windows apps vs Linux and Linux apps.

https://diskprices.com

In the face of $2 per GB of DDR4-3200 memory, an extra 4GB of RAM for 
Windows costs $8.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ddr4+3200+ram+16gb


So that's $10 of hardware 'bloat' for Windows

You spend more than that every week on KY jelly.

So why are you bitching?



> As for linking my phone, my
> computer has Bluetooth, I imagine I could use that.

Imagination can't help you here.

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Re: Who Knows Hardware? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 21:16 -0600
  Re: Who Knows Hardware? Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2024-12-13 12:06 +0000
    Re: Who Knows Hardware? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:03 -0600
      Re: Who Knows Hardware? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 13:51 -0700
      Re: Who Knows Hardware? DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-15 10:17 -0500
  Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-13 09:40 -0500
    Re: Who Knows Hardware? DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-13 18:29 -0500
      Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 07:45 -0500
  Re: Who Knows Hardware? DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-13 22:05 -0500
    Re: Who Knows Hardware? Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 22:11 -0500
      Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:06 -0500
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:50 +0000
          Linux gaming (was: Re: Who Knows Hardware?) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-15 00:26 +0000
            Re: Linux gaming CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 09:52 -0500
      Re: Who Knows Hardware? DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-17 12:31 -0500
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:05 -0500
          Re: Who Knows Hardware? DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-17 16:27 -0500
            Re: Who Knows Hardware? Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 16:32 -0500
            Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:13 -0500
          Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:20 -0500
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 18:24 +0000
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 19:42 +0000
          Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 21:28 +0000
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:13 -0500
    Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 07:59 -0500
      Re: Who Knows Hardware? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-14 07:52 -0600
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 09:17 -0500
          Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:36 +0000
            Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:24 -0500
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-14 10:38 -0500
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:34 +0000
          Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:23 -0500
            Re: Who Knows Hardware? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-15 14:00 +0000
              Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 10:37 -0500
            Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:56 +0000
              Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 11:08 -0500
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:34 +0000
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:05 -0500
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 21:27 +0000
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:18 -0500
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:47 +0000
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:31 -0500
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 19:19 +0000
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 19:36 -0500
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:55 +0000
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:50 +0000
                Re: Who Knows Hardware? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 20:08 +0000
      Re: Who Knows Hardware? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:31 +0000
        Re: Who Knows Hardware? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:19 -0500

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