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Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop"

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On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-16 à 05:24, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-14 à 18:29, DFS a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> "I will use Windows 7 or Mac OS interchangeably as desktops, and often
>>>> surprise people when they find this out. I actually try to avoid using
>>>> Linux on the desktop because it's a distraction from my focus, which is
>>>> Linux userspace internals (non-GUI stuff.)"
>>>>
>>>> 2012 interview
>>>> https://usesthis.com/interviews/daniel.robbins/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Say it ain't so!
>>>
>>> It's probably because like most Linux users, he ends up tinkering with
>>> the system rather than actually getting things done. All MacOS desktops
>>> more or less look the same but it doesn't matter because most Mac users
>>> see their machine as a tool to accomplish a task. With Windows, it's
>>> often the case too but there is always a distraction to keep people away
>>> from their work. With Linux, it seems to be nothing but distractions.
>> 
>> Bullshit. I use Linux for the same things I used Windows for (when I still
>> used Windows). Email, writing, streaming movies, some forums, OCR scanning,
>> listening to music and using the for Internet news and research. What most
>> people use their computers for at home. Linux is more efficient than either
>> Windows or Macs (I know, I've tried both — both are crap in my opinion).
>
> Both operating systems have their distractions and I don't find myself 
> any more productive under Linux than I do under Windows. If anything, I 
> constantly have to spend time getting Linux to do the basic things 
> Windows gets right out of the box. Even if I get it to work on Monday, 
> an update might cause it to break on Tuesday necessitating a new kind of 
> fix.

I'm guessing this is because you have a whole lot more experience with 
Windows than with Linux. I don't have issues getting Linux to do "basic 
things." Not even sure what "basic things" you're talking about. 

I just spent about three hours getting my wife's desktop to boot and update 
to the newest Windows 11 update (which is why I suspect it locked up in the 
first place). Once I got Windows to boot (by disconnecting the hard drive 
and removing it from the "boot choice" in the BIOS — it took an hour and a 
half to download the update and install it — than about another ten minutes 
after rebooting... doing something or other. This is on a 10th generation 
Intel CPU, with 40 GBs of RAM, using an NVMe SSD, with an Internet speeds of 
about 650 Mbps. Heaven knows how long it would have taken with slower 
Internet, an older CPU and 8 GBs of RAM.

So, one of the "basic things" for me is being able to start and update the 
damn computer without it locking up and taking over an hour a half just to 
download and install an update. I have never had to deal with something like 
this in the 18 years I've been using Linux (except when supporting my 
family's Windows' machines).

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-14 18:29 -0500
  Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-14 23:56 +0000
    Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-15 00:40 +0000
      Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-15 09:16 +0000
    Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-15 11:11 -0500
      Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-20 09:46 -0500
    Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-16 19:48 -0600
      Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:04 +0000
  Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 00:14 +0000
  Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 09:04 -0500
    Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:24 +0000
      Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 10:39 -0500
        Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:01 +0000
          Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 08:54 -0500
            Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:25 +0000
              Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:51 -0500
                Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 10:59 +0000
                Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:57 -0500
                Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 07:45 +0000
                Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:56 -0500
                Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:46 +0000
                Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:49 -0500
                Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:18 +0000
          Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 20:24 +0000
            Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 10:48 +0000
  Re: Founder of Gentoo Daniel Robbins: "I actually try to avoid using Linux on the desktop" Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 14:30 -0500

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