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Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network
Date 2024-09-28 21:55 +0200
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On 2024-09-28 13:39, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Enrico Papaloma, 2024-09-19 03:05:
> 
> [...]
>> Remember the home router is always set to not broadcast your BSSID/SSID
>> pair, which is prudent not for security but for privacy reasons since then
>> phones don't upload your unique BSSID/SSID pair to Internet databases.
> 
> Why do you think, that the phone won't do this, when it is *connected*
> to that SSID?
> 
>> So two things are set which most people don't know why they'd set them.
>> (1) The home router is set to NOT BROADCAST your unique BSSID/SSID pair.
>> (2) The phone is set to NOT AUTO CONNECT to any known wi-fi access points.
>>
>> Those are set for privacy.
>> Not for security.
> 
> What has auto-connect to do with privacy if you are using your own WiFi
> network?

Because he hides his router SSID so that google doesn't map his WiFi to 
his house⁽¹⁾. That way autoconnect doesn't happen. His phone has to 
actively search for the home WiFi in order to connect to it.


(1) The phones of passerbys detect the SSID of the WiFis they hear on 
the street, and google maps them. This is used so that a phone in the 
world can know where it is by identifying the SSIDs in the vicinity. And 
inside buildings, by identifying certain BT emitters. Some people 
consider this an invasion of their privacy. And others, like our friend, 
dislike that phones are passively listening and mapping locations and 
that people do not massively disable this feature.

>> Most people don't understand the difference, but the end result is if you
>> leave auto connect on the default setting, then your phone will constantly
>> shout out your unique BSSID/SSID pair everywhere you go in the world.
> 
> Do you have a source where one can learn more about this?
> 
>> That allows anyone with even minimum skills to track your every movement.
>> I don't want that.
> 
> With even "minimum skills"? How?

He is Arlen :-)

He has mentioned those things many times, only interesting if you are 
similarly minded. Very impractical, contrary to what he says. Like the 
phone not connecting to the home router automatically and fast.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-15 06:30 +0200
  Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-09-15 05:15 -0500
    Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-15 19:18 +0200
      Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-18 08:52 +0200
        Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-18 17:40 +0200
  Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-15 23:15 +0200
    Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-19 03:05 +0200
      Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-09-19 08:52 +0100
        Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-30 00:53 +0200
          Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-09-30 09:04 +0100
            Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-10-02 01:39 +0200
              Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-02 05:11 +0100
      Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-19 10:06 +0200
      Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-28 13:39 +0200
        Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-28 15:10 +0200
          Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:55 +0200
          Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-29 21:03 +0200
            Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-30 00:30 +0200
              Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-30 09:00 +0200
              Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-30 16:52 +0200
        Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:55 +0200
  Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-18 08:50 +0200
    Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-18 17:40 +0200
      Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-09-18 14:07 -0500
        Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-19 02:59 +0200
          Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-09-19 01:09 -0500
            Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-19 21:42 +0200
              Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 08:29 +0000
                Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-23 06:11 +0200
                Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 14:11 +0000
                Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-23 17:34 +0200
                Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-23 06:32 +0200
      Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-28 13:40 +0200
        Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-28 15:17 +0200
          Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:08 +0200
          Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-29 21:06 +0200
            Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-09-30 00:32 +0200
              Re: home screen icon to connect to wi-fi network Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-30 16:54 +0200

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