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Re: Recommandations for mail-app

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Qihe wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:54:03 +0100 (GMT+01:00) :

>> ... Gmail app, the app UNILATERALLY (without
>> asking you!) *creates* a Google Account on your Android phone.
>> 
>> Worse, it uploads your contacts, again, WITHOUT ASKING YOU first.
>> You can turn that off subsequently, but they ALREADY HAVE THEM by then.
>> 
> 
> Thank you for writing it so loud and clear. Google (& others)
>  actually manages my own contacts as their loot.

Given the most valuable thing about you is your location, and the second 
most valuable thing about you are all your friends & family (contacts), 
every app that has no need for your contacts wants to upload them anyway.

I consider it rude of me to upload someone else's contact information.

> This help hiding contacts from other apps (more or less):

I gave up on private contacts and now I don't use contacts so my contacts 
sqlite database is empty - actually - it was empty.

Now my contacts sqlite database is just filled with fake contacts.
https://f-droid.org/packages/me.billdietrich.fake_contacts/
This way I'll instantly know when a program is sucking in the sqlite db.

 <https://github.com/BillDietrich/fake_contacts>
 <https://f-droid.org/packages/me.billdietrich.fake_contacts/>
 <https://archive.org/details/github.com-BillDietrich-fake_contacts_-_2021-01-31_19-04-27>
 <https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/me.billdietrich.fake_contacts?repo=main>

I have many threads on private contacts, where I've tested these apps.
These are the apps I'm testing out for contacts privacy.

 OpenContacts
 A different database for contacts to keep them private only to you.
 <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/opencontacts.open.com.opencontacts/>

 True Contacts
 "True contacts are good for Local Sync and all apps that create contacts accounts"
 <http://www.psencik.cz/true-contacts>
 <http://www.psencik.cz/file-cabinet/true-contacts-6.apk>
 The Google Play Store repository copy is deprecated by the developer 
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.psencik.com.android.contacts>

 Private Contacts by 2Gusoft
 "Improve the privacy of your contacts by defining which should be shared 
  with other apps and which should remain private (secret)."
  5K+ Downloads 
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.abwesend.privatecontacts>

 Private Contacts by Blueline Studio
 50+ Downloads
 "Private Contacts isolates contacts from applications on your phone"
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ml.bluelinestudio.privatecontact>
 Private Contacts - Private Call & SMS on Windows Pc
 Private Contacts is a fantastic privacy protection app designed to
 hide your private contacts, messages and call logs on your phone.
 <https://apkpure.com/private-contacts-private-call-sms/hazar.studio.privatecontacts>
 <https://appsonwindows.com/apk/2426789/>
 <https://download.appsonwindows.com/download/hazar.studio.privatecontacts-v1.2.9-appsonwindows.com.apk>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.abwesend.privatecontacts>

 Favorite Contacts
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.widgetapp.easymodecontactswidget>

 Contacts Storage
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.providers.contacts>

 Contacts
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.app.contacts>

 Contacts
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodwy.contacts>

 Contacts (extended simple mobile tools)
 <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.ritscher.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro/>

 Contacts (simple mobile tools)
 <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro/>
 <https://bytehamster.gitlab.io/fdroid-website/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro/>
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro>

> https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts

Below are the links so only one person has to look them up, 
and then everyone else can just click on the results for that app.
 <https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts>
 <https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts/releases/tag/1.1.0>
 <https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts/releases/download/1.1.0/contacts-3-foss-release.apk>
 Name: 20241029_github-contacts-3-foss-release.apk
 Size: 7905323 bytes (7720 KiB)
 SHA256: B19D5DA0705C3C0B93A7783E715FE1FB7C01E2D1ACA221E46AD19E22B2FEB43E

Also:
 <https://www.fossify.org/>
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.fossify.contacts>
 <https://f-droid.org/packages/org.fossify.contacts/>
 <https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/org.fossify.contacts>

>> I use FairEmail, as I gave up on K9 before Mozilla took them over.
>> 
> Why? 

Because FairEmail is built around privacy from a person whom I trust, and 
whom I've worked with to help get his OAuth2 working when Google screwed us 
for about 3 months when Google required 2FA/MFV until Google finally 
relented 3 months later and allows smaller developers to use OAuth2.

> I wished Mozilla could add a Usenet newsreader on k-9. 

Yup. There is no good Android Usenet newsreader, that's for sure.

> I like Thunderbird for this.

To each his/her own as I hate Thunderbird's newsreader, which treats Usenet 
as if it's email without realizing Usenet is fundamentally different stuff.

> 
>>  *FairEmail*
>> 
> It is far more configurable than any other mail client and this is
>  great but not easier than k-9 for lot of people.

I used K-9 for years until I switched to FairEmail but to each his/her own.

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  Re: Recommandations for mail-app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-10-29 13:35 +0000
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              Re: Recommandations for mail-app Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-10-30 19:16 -0400
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