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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows |
| Subject | Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother |
| Date | 2024-10-25 01:35 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On Thu, 10/24/2024 9:13 PM, ...winston wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On Thu, 10/24/2024 1:20 PM, ...winston wrote:
>>> Full format
>>> - files erased
>>> - writes zeros to the whole disk
>>> - drive scanned for bad sectors(does not fix bad sectors)
>>> - new root directory and file system
>>
>> I recommend using Process Monitor, to track what a tool does to a device.
>>
>>
>> A full format was a concept of a long time ago. It might have been
>> called a Low Level Format.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>
> Iirc, a true Low Level format required 3rdparty tools.
> The last time I did a low level was years ago a Connor(Seagate manufactured drive(small drive ~500 MB) installed in a HP tower.
> Don't even remember the tool, obtained it from an IT admin on a 3.5" floppy.
> - a few months later, the drive died. Track O, un-repairable.
>
> <https://www.easeus.com/partition-master/high-level-format-vs-low-level-format.html?>
>
> <https://www.easeus.com/computer-instruction/low-level-format-vs-standard-format.html?>
>
> <https://www.minitool.com/partition-disk/high-level-format-vs-low-level.html>
I was doing them on 5MB and 10MB (full height) drives coming into the department.
It's possible a SASI controller was part of the solution at the time.
And you had to look out the window and check the weather before
you started (some of our power drops were weather-related). And you had
to have the operation run to completion, or the drive would be bricked.
One of the reasons for doing an LLF, was the change from interleave 3 to
interleave 1. Something was "going fast enough" on our hardware setup,
we could change the interleave. (It might have even involved a different
brand SASI card.) While that should have made the drive feel faster, considering
how creaky everything was back then, you would hardly notice.
1 4 7 2 5 8 3 6 9 Interleave 3 (takes three rotations to read nine sectors)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Interleave 1 (one rotation to read nine sectors)
The data rates were awful (less than 1MB/sec) ... but nobody benched anything back then.
We didn't want to know :-) When the alternative was a floppy drive at 75KB/sec,
you were not complaining, no matter what the number was.
Before hard drives came along, a "dream machine" was one with two floppy drives.
While this isn't ours, it illustrates what people used to fight over. Nobody
wanted the machines that had only the one floppy (your *OS* was on that floppy).
Any time the OS floppy comes out of the machine, your screen would say
"Hey, dumbass, put my floppy back in" :-) Being asked to copy a data floppy,
would always bring a scowl to the face of a single floppy drive computer user.
I had one of those for a while. There was so little RAM in the computer,
you couldn't buffer a full floppy in there! Nightmare stuff.
"Insert floppy 1" "Insert floppy 2" "Insert floppy 1" ... "Hey dumbass..."
https://www.hpmuseum.net/images/9895A-35.jpg
Paul
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Using Windows to make Android smoother Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-23 21:54 +0000
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 00:56 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-24 17:35 +0000
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 14:35 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:20 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-24 16:12 +0200
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 13:20 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk> - 2024-10-24 13:00 -0500
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 14:12 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-10-26 12:10 +0200
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-26 15:56 +0200
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-10-26 14:09 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-10-28 16:53 +0100
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-01 09:19 +0100
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-10-24 14:33 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 21:13 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-10-25 01:35 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-10-25 10:15 +0000
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-25 15:11 +0200
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-10-25 11:02 -0400
Olde Disk Drives (was: Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-25 17:35 +0100
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-24 17:15 +0000
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-10-24 14:42 -0400
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-25 18:41 +0000
Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-01 06:26 +0000
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