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Re: Using Windows to make Android smoother

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...winston wrote on Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:56:55 -0400 :

>> I need a bigger sd card - I spent years for this moment by using Windows to
>> make Android sdcard swaps smoother and drama reduced experiences for all.
>> 
>> Some questions...
>> Does a Windows "Quick Format" work as well as the slow format?
>> Does the format type matter when the sd card is to be used in a phone?
> 
> Quick format doesn't check for bad sectors, full format does(takes 
> longer, mostly due the scanning for bad sectors). Full format(iirc) 
> removes prior stored files.
>    -your choice. If you concerned about the card(probably sourced and 
> made west of the Pacific Ocean, usually China, South Korea, Phillipines 
> etc.) having bad sectors, choose full. If not, choose Quick.

Thanks for that advice, where I formatted the 128GB Lexar sd card on
Windows, which took a long time (maybe 45 minutes or so?) but it seems from
what you wrote that it might not be a bad idea depending on the provenance.

Luckily, the Windows format of the Android sdcard is only done once.

It's formatted on Windows mostly to set the volume label so that the phone
still thinks the old 64GB sdcard is in the phone, when it's a 128GB sdcard.

>> I just bought from Amazon a 128GB three-pack with reader at about $10 each.
>> And, while a quick format on Windows takes a couple of seconds, a slow
>> format takes quite a bit longer - it's still running on my old desktop >
>> Did I need that slow format?
>> Is the default of XFat (128kbyte allocation unit) an OK setting for phones?
> 
> Your phone supports both exFAT and FAT32.
>   exFAT is usually more efficient in storage and file transfer for large 
> capacity cards
>   eXFAT is almost always recommended for cards greater than 32GB
> 
> For a 128GB SDXC card(phone or pc[laptop, tablet) I would never consider 
> formatting as FAT32 if also used on a phone.

Thanks. I took the default of exFAT for the 128GB sdcard format.
I'll remember that for the future Windows formats of Android sdcards.

> As a test on Win10 Pro(1 TB SSD main drive) - I took a spare 3 yr old 
> 128 GB Samsung EVO Plus Class 10 U3 SDXC card and formatted full  - took 
> 39 minutes for a full format.  I also full formatted a 5 yr old a 64 GB 
> SanDisk Class 10 U1(previously only used a digital camera, no longer 
> used, pretty much a dust collector in spare part box) - took 32 minutes 
> for the full format.

I didn't measure the time but mine were similar in that my 128GB sdcard
took something like 45 minutes (I didn't measure though) to complete.

Just copying the top-level folder over to the new sdcard took similar time.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/xTHbYfZ5/populate-sd.jpg>

So the price of portable storage (meaning you can move the sdcard from one
phone to another or you can swap out sdcards and everything still works),
is about two hours of waiting for things to finish up doing their thing.

Of course those two hours on Windows saves some number of hours on Android
if you have your app data on Android store things (such as maps) on the sd.

The phone still "thinks" it's the same card because the volume label didn't
change (does a volume label need to be 4 characters, a dash, & four more?).

>   - Not sure if it compares to whatever you bought(a quick look on 
> Amazon didn't show any Samsung[my preferred SDXC card] 3 packs) which 
> seems to mean the Samsung test may/may not not apply to full formatting 
> a different brand of an SDXC card, but the 64 GB at approx. a half hour 
> might indicate up to an hour for a full format on a 128 GB card(twice as 
> many sectors to scan)

Here's what I bought on Amazon <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CB11S919>.
I didn't know what to look for, so I simply went by the $28 price.
That's about $10 per 128GB of portable storage since it was 3 cards.

In case the links change over time, here's what the description says.

Lexar E-Series 128GB Micro SD Card 3 Pack, microSDXC UHS-I Flash Memory
Card with Adapter, 100MB/s, C10, U3, A1, V30, Full HD, 4K UHD, High Speed
TF Card 

 Wide Compatibility: 
 Ideal for your smartphones, tablets, Drones, action cameras and Gopro. 
 Premium memory solution for smartphones, tablets, or action cameras.

 4K Ultra UHD: 
 Quickly captures, plays back, and transfers media files, 
 including 1080p Full-HD, 3D, and 4K UHD video.
    
 High Speed Memory Card: 
 Leverages UHS-I technology for a transfer speed up to 100MB/s.
 Loads apps faster with A1-rated performance. (Based on internal 
 test environment of Lexar, so the actual speed may vary with
 different host devices and environments. For devices that don't 
 support UHS-I, the transmission speed will be different due to
 interface limitations.)

 Multi Capacity: 
 Available in capacities ranging from 32GB to 512GB.
 The 128GB micro sd card can support up to 6 hours 4K video, 
 or up to 20 hours 1080P video, 37,600 photos, or 19,440 songs.
 (Due to different capacity algorithms and partial capacity are 
 used for system files, management and performance optimization,
 so the actual available capacity may be less than the 
 identifying capacity.)

 Ultra Durable: Waterproof, temperature-proof, shockproof, magnetic-proof.

Would you have purchased those three cards (for about $10 each) if you knew
that the major use would be to go into a smartphone such as the A32-5G?

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