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Re: Move Service to New Phone (?)

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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-09-04 17:42, VanguardLH wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If I get another phone of the same make and model (in this case a Moto g5
>>>>> Plus), can I just move the SIM card to the new phone and continue on?
>>>> 
>>>> The IMEI for the phones is different.  Some lock to the IMEI of the
>>>> phone, not to the SIM card.  Check with your cellular provider.  They
>>>> should know how they track an account.  Tell them which make and model
>>>> of phones you have, and if they are SIM card or cardless (eSIM).
>>> 
>>> I've never noticed such a thing.
>>> 
>>> I just moved over the card (sometimes with a size change), then moved
>>> the data.
>> 
>> Again, depends on the cellular provider.  I use an MVNO (Tracfone), and
>> asked them about moving the SIM card from my old phone to a new phone
>> that I might get later.  They said No, that I couldn't just move over
>> the SIM card to the new phone.  I had to buy another SIM card from them
>> (~$5 USD) for the new phone, and register it with them which is when
>> they link the new phone's IMEI with their SIM card's ID.  I remember
>> having to get a new SIM card from them before when I got a new phone
>> (now my current/old phone).  During the registration process to grant
>> access to their service, they ask for the IMEI of the phone in which I
>> use their SIM card.  They link IMEI + ICCID to my account.
>> 
>> Getting your cellular carrier to track your phone on your behalf
>> requires jumping through a lot of hoops proving you're the owner of the
>> phone and account, and may even require a court order.  They don't have
>> to jump through any loops to link IMEI to SIM ID (aka ICCID), but
>> they'll make you jump.  You can ask the police since the mobile carriers
>> will work with them, but obviously the police get involved in criminal
>> situations, not because you lost your phone, or it was stolen.
>> 
>> https://www.airdroid.com/parent-control/how-to-track-phone-using-imei-online/
>> 
>> While most phones will show the IMEI somewhere under Settings -> About
>> phone -> SIM [Status|Card], not all will show you the SIM card's ID aka
>> ICCID (Integrated Circuit Identification number), a 18-22 digit number
>> usually printed on the SIM card.  On some phones, you can dial *#06# to
>> get IMEI, MEID, ICCD, MSISDN, and serial number.  On my ancient phone
>> (c.2016, Android 8), just the IMEI is returned.
>> 
>> Because the ICCID is unique to every SIM card, mobile carriers can
>> simply track accounts to the ICCID, and not bother with the IMEI, yes,
>> you should be able to simply move the old SIM card to a new phone.  All
>> depends on how a mobile carrier tracks which IDs in an account to
>> determine if you can access their services.
>> 
>> https://www.infobip.com/glossary/iccid-number
>> https://onomondo.com/blog/iccid-number-explained/
> 
> 
> Maybe the regulators here impede charging money to move to another 
> phone, impeding this silliness.

Am with you. Never had to get a new SIM card and simply moved the SIM from
one phone to the next. 

If you do need a new SIM here, it's usually free. 

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Move Service to New Phone (?) croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2024-09-03 14:00 -0700
  Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-03 22:02 +0000
  Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-09-03 20:24 -0400
    Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-04 05:01 +0000
    Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-04 07:12 +0200
      Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-09-04 13:10 -0400
  Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-04 03:57 +0200
    Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-04 07:13 +0200
      Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Gelato <gelato@.is.invalid> - 2024-09-04 01:48 -0400
      Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-04 13:18 +0200
      Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-04 22:04 +0200
        Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-09-04 13:18 -0700
          Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-09 20:39 +0200
      Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-09-08 11:25 +0200
        Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-08 14:55 +0200
    Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-04 21:57 +0200
      Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-08 14:57 +0200
        Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-09-08 15:54 +0000
          Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-08 17:11 +0000
            Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-09-08 13:58 -0700
        Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-09 20:29 +0200
          Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-09 21:06 +0200
  Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-09-03 22:22 -0500
    Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-09-04 06:05 +0100
    Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-04 13:24 +0200
      Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-09-04 10:42 -0500
        Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-04 19:53 +0200
          Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-09-05 08:42 +0000
  Re: Move Service to New Phone (?) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-04 07:08 +0200

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