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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions |
| Date | 2018-06-02 06:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vW6Eh-1RA-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Fri 01 Jun 2018 at 09:08:53 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/01/2018 08:21 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>>The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step > >>>back and plays "gadget" [...] > > > >>The gadget API is the programming API offered by the kernel for the OTG > >>ports: no OTG => no gadget! > >> > >>>[OTG] > > > >>More importantly, the USB ports which support OTG are driven by > >>different hardware. > > > >Ah, so the hardware has to play along... > > > >>Right, you need both your hardware's USB port to support OTG and you > >>need your kernel to have a driver that supports this hardware. > >>AFAIK the driver is usually available. > > > >Did I say I was handwaving? > > > >Thanks for the clarifications! > > > > It also suggests that I frequently grasp some of the implications of > what I read. Thank you. > As an illustration of my mindset: > If they had really intended USB to be *UNIVERSAL* serial bus, then > it should have been OTG from the get go. > P.S. I know of thousands of reasons they did not. > Vast majority preceded by $ ;/ I think you're misunderstanding the use of the word universal. USB was designed to be a universal way of connecting "any" peripherals to a PC (sensu lato) which acts as a unique, controlling host for them. It wasn't designed to duplicate networking hardware, communicating between multiple hosts. Nor was OTG. OTG was designed to allow, for example, what's normally a peripheral to be disconnected from the host, be connected to a peripheral and effectively become a host controlling it. Eg, a camera could act as a peripheral while uploading photos to a PC, then act as a host when connected to an inkjet to print them. Cheers, David.
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USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-05-31 16:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 16:50 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-05-31 18:10 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-01 11:50 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-06-01 02:00 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-01 12:00 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-06-01 12:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-06-01 14:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-06-01 15:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-01 16:10 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-06-02 06:50 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-07 06:50 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-06-07 11:00 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-06-01 16:10 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-06-01 19:40 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-01 21:20 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2018-06-01 23:10 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-06-02 02:50 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-06-01 05:10 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-06-01 05:20 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-01 12:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-06-01 14:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-06-01 19:40 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 08:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-06-01 10:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-01 12:30 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-06-01 16:20 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-07 06:50 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2018-06-07 09:10 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-06-07 14:40 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 14:20 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-06-18 14:50 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 16:00 +0200
Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-06-18 15:40 +0200
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